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Nov 6 2021 11:26am
Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 6 2021 01:19pm)
Is there anything outside of this wsg driving these ideas for new rules?


broken IAS/attack speed caps as well (with burst of speed, trap sins can throw out traps/dtalon/fireblast at 2x the old speed)
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Amazon Specific Rules:
- SM is not allowed
- 2x Raven Frosts allowed (can not stack above 310 resist)
- May use +15% max fire resists
- More than one point into Plague Javelin is not allowed

not sure bout that.
its like impossible to get a dodge lock in d2r
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Nov 9 2021 11:12pm
Considering new rules:
Ban assassin martial arts skills (currently unblockable due to a glitch)
Energy shield sorcs >80% cannot use mana potions
Energy sorcs any % may not use mana pool
Limit for cold stack (400%?)

Please discuss above
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Nov 9 2021 11:18pm
Quote (Aaronoob @ Nov 9 2021 09:12pm)
Considering new rules:
Ban assassin martial arts skills (currently unblockable due to a glitch)
Energy shield sorcs >80% cannot use mana potions
Energy sorcs any % may not use mana pool
Limit for cold stack (400%?)

Please discuss above


lmfao
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Nov 10 2021 12:53am
Is it an option to just allow more slow% vs. Assassins rather than capping their build structures so much?
Seems like it would be better to enable the use of game content, rather than disable the use of game content.
Something to consider.
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Quote (TSBoyer @ Nov 10 2021 01:53am)
Is it an option to just allow more slow% vs. Assassins rather than capping their build structures so much?
Seems like it would be better to enable the use of game content, rather than disable the use of game content.
Something to consider.


Lemme go hoto smack a sin on my necro to apply the slow m8 what a great idea why didn't I think of this?!
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Nov 10 2021 12:59am
Quote (Aaronoob @ Nov 9 2021 11:12pm)
Considering new rules:
Ban assassin martial arts skills (currently unblockable due to a glitch)
Energy shield sorcs >80% cannot use mana potions
Energy sorcs any % may not use mana pool
Limit for cold stack (400%?)

Please discuss above


No... Just no. Like WTF. I'm a Hybrid Assassin and dragon claw/dragon talon/dragon flight is part of my arsenal. It is beyond stupid to even consider banning the martial arts tree. What's next? Ban smite because fant makes it faster (and it also happens to be unblockable)? Ban strafe on zons because pew pew too fast? Limitations are starting to get absurd. Instead of banning stuff, a better alternative is to open up the doors to welcome more variety/skills/gear/builds. Decrep used to be GM. Make it GM again. This should fix a lot of the speed issues between Sin v Nec and is a far better solution than banning out assassin skills.

Allow bone wall. I see no issue with it. Hell, allow poison nova and force the sin to run fade and PLR gear to negate it.

Cold stack limit makes sense. It should be 410 (before to Anya Bug) = raven or 385 with raven.

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Nov 10 2021 01:18am
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Quote (TheGreatWalk @ Nov 10 2021 01:56am)
Lemme go hoto smack a sin on my necro to apply the slow m8 what a great idea why didn't I think of this?!


My good bro your Necro has Decrepify which in old D2 was considered BM and usually banned. This is slow %.
If you were allowed to use Decrep as example, it would cull the Assassin's aggressive strengths and arguably be a better solution to balance than restricting the hell out of Assassin builds.
Same goes for say a BvC who slapped on a Clegs for vs. Trapper.

In any situation like this where game balance is trying to be achieved, it is usually better to enable more content to achieve balance, rather than removing content.
Generally players like their games with more dynamic, not less.

This post was edited by TSBoyer on Nov 10 2021 01:25am
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Mana pots is for chumps
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Nov 10 2021 12:59am)
No... Just no. Like WTF. I'm a Hybrid Assassin and dragon claw/dragon talon/dragon flight is part of my arsenal. It is beyond stupid to even consider banning the martial arts tree. What's next? Ban smite because fant makes it faster (and it also happens to be unblockable)? Ban strafe on zons because pew pew too fast? Limitations are starting to get absurd. The fact that BOS was even "banned" in the first place is already silly enough. Instead of banning stuff, a better alternative is to open up the doors to welcome more variety/styles. Decrep used to be GM. Make it GM again. This should fix a lot of the speed issues, rather than banning assassin skills.

Cold stack limit makes sense. It should be 410 (before to Anya Bug) = raven or 385 with raven.


Hybrids will be just fine with ww/traps & mb.

The problem with kicks & other melees is the fact that they completely ignore block and there is no way to counter against it.
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