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Dec 22 2014 03:28pm
Quote (legen @ Dec 22 2014 03:55am)
This thread getting some use lols

As for "having a block setup", even if it achieves 75% that does not have to be stated, as long as no changes to base stats or skills are changed/respec'd from when the character was signed up. (Unless previously approved by a moderator.)

However, when dueling vs someone, either player has the right to inquire about an opponent's build (ie, block %, skill damage, leap levels, etcs) and the opponent must answer truthfully. In extreme cases this could be moderated by screen shots the same way we do for basic mod checks.

For what your asking users to provide isn't asked or specified in the rules as written, and thus would need to be ammendend if anyone plans on enforcing this. (Ie, making each player state if they use "block" or not, a trap sin using kick or high fb dmg, a sorc using high, low, or no es, etc)

As the case with kungfu, clearly if he was using a sword thats a BIG red flag, and he really should have been restarted at the bottom of the ladder since thats the rule. He was an updater, and knows the rules. Don't let him get away with ignorance for this, especially since you NEED to know the rules to participate on the ladder, and it is stated that not knowing the rules is not an excuse.

As for changing rules and converting updaters to moderators, the users should never be allowed to just do so themselves, and personally I believe there should be penalties for trying to manipulated the thread this way. In fact I believe kungfu also tried doing something similar during an update last week where he gave himself a completely unfair call to move up the ladder, and then quickly edited it out as soon as he was crakled on in there next post. Becoming a mod has anyways required extended time being an updater to learn how to make the proper/fair calls, as well as approval from previous ladder mods such as Kenny, CallMeMatt, Joe Spy, Bingtu (sort of), Vince, Rivals and myself. Also, everytime in the past when we intended on changing ladder rules, and even the format, multiple moderators/old moderates were involved and everything is screened before being implementated. Honestly, probably the only tine Matt and I have really talked without it being guided by the personal and clan rivalry.

Anyways, thats my opinion. /end rant, that was a ton to type out on my phone rofl


I was under the impression listing if you were Mb was what we were doing. At least that is how it was being done when Vince made me an updater.
I am interested though (by the bold).
When did this happen? You can just pm me those if you like, or just post here.
and I agree he should be dropped but I wasn't apart of that discussion. Bingtu updated after the whole situation and stated Kung was giving up his win.
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Dec 22 2014 03:30pm
Can someone give me a tl;dr version? I want in on dis drama

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Can someone give me a tl;dr version? I want in on dis drama


tl;dr of the gerbil incident?
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Dec 22 2014 03:31pm
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Can someone give me a tl;dr version? I want in on dis drama


Kung-fu was caught using token to respec when he switched leap olto shout, then even after the ruling of being moved to the bottom when you respec he remained where he was
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Dec 22 2014 03:32pm
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Kung-fu was caught using token to respec when he switched leap olto shout, then even after the ruling of being moved to the bottom when you respec he remained where he was


Pretty much sums it up.
Note: Also worth mentioning he had to restat a barb to win bvg...
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Dec 22 2014 03:34pm
Quote (Glyphic @ Dec 22 2014 05:32pm)
Pretty much sums it up.
Note: Also worth mentioning he had to restat a barb to win bvg...


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70378220&f=147&p=484078868

TBH a well build modern ghost WILL out ww a bvc who doesnt know how to clip properly. Its not THAT shameful.

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http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70378220&f=147&p=484078868

TBH a well build modern ghost WILL out ww a bvc who doesnt know how to clip properly. Its not THAT shameful.


I know.
But. losing an ft5 bvg is still sad. No matter how you look at it.

/e Kungfu knows it is sad too. Hence why he resorted to bm tactics intentionally and should be suspended and dropped to the bottom

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Quote (Glyphic @ Dec 22 2014 05:35pm)
I know.
But. losing an ft5 bvg is still sad. No matter how you look at it.

/e Kungfu knows it is sad too. Hence why he resorted to bm tactics intentionally and should be suspended and dropped to the bottom


A ban is too much, unless he has caught AGAIN
A suspension doesn't mean shit - just a waste of time for the mods
A rank drop to bottom of ladder is most appropriate. It should be done with a "written warning" that next time getting caught = banned

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Dec 22 2014 03:38pm
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Dec 22 2014 03:38pm
We demand justice or that gerbil duels my sin
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Dec 22 2014 03:39pm
Decent ghost vs BvC isn't that bad IMO. If it's Noni, that's one thing, but Riz gets practice vs my barb on ladder weekly. He's always improving his build/techniques. Saying it's embarrassing/bad/etc kind of takes away from Riz.
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