how come 9x 45 ss lifers and 10x 32020 is a > inventory for ebotdz than 37x 32020?

the only thing ss lifers have going for them is minimum damage ( 300-500 ) more min than 32020s.
32020s are minutely > in max damage, AR, and life.

should I try a different weapon?
4 frame gris, shaeled DC, 4 frame cruel or fool, etc ?

this is in regard to FvF. As far as I can telll 37x 32020 is > vs zeal and conc
any advise would be greatly appreciated.

This post was edited by KungPeriodFu on Feb 10 2012 11:20am

I'm actually inclined to disagree with you about 37x 32020 being better for zeal and conc since it drops your AR considerably (assuming you're using angelics). Honestly I don't know why they wouldn't be better for FvF though. There's definitely no point in using shael'd DC since it does half as much damage as ebotdz so the extra ds becomes pointless.

nah I gained ar in all setups with 32020 including angelics

This post was edited by KungPeriodFu on Feb 10 2012 11:40am

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If you built to botdz with an eth monarch spirit on swap (146 str on swap, or 126 if using rends for str glitch) shapers should give more life and more average damage than 3/20/20s. The small charms tend to be better with four framers and lower damage weapons. In the end, they are both so similar that it almost doesn't matter.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Feb 10 2012 01:09pm

if you keep the botd through the change there's a big diff. At least for me

oh I'm back btw. Toss tycoon back on the ladder

That's what i used to do
now i kinda mixed my inventory up
to give me the best max dmg/ar/life ratio for both.

but ink is right you will soon see once you test it out you wont do as good.

im out for the moment

cure will be back like in 2week