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Feb 4 2015 12:46pm
what's a rick
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Feb 4 2015 12:54pm
Quote (Myrddrall9 @ Feb 3 2015 07:00pm)
Nice to see oak is an option ^^ (but I guess it won't be used much, since both players must agree and not many people would want to give their opponent use of oak). I'd definitely put "no corpse skills" under druids too, since technically right now druids could carrion vine (10% hp recovered per body eaten lol).


East has hatred for charges pretty much. It's aggravating as hell.

Quote (Azn Masta @ Feb 4 2015 06:07am)
Consider a specific rule section for sorc vs sorc and sin vs sin. While I don't have much sorc experience, see below for my opinion on sins:

I would partially agree that Lo rune shouldn't be allowed overall. But I'd argue that hybrid should be allowed to use Lo or wisp if they so choose against a trapper (and vice versa). It's purely 1 sided in which the trapper can abuse higher damage/mana/40life rep and corner if he so chooses. Without the mitigated damage there's little to no incentive for a hybrid or spider (with lower ar and damage than ghost) to jump into 5x traps and attempt to ww against someone who has ~59-60% block. The "ability to ww" is essentially completely nulled. I speak from d2pk experience playing from both sides.

Also, I'm not sure if you've ever gone pure trap against a 7000 mana es sorc with life rep and wants to l8z or play just barely short of it. Fb poke out ranges trap poke and this match up can be surprisingly difficult against an experienced sorc who doesn't want to be caught. Chasing them down often results in at least 1 fb to the face only to have them wsg out and rep up once you "catch" them. Having a Vex to weaken the fb train spam damage will promote a more chasing playstyle and less camping play style. Anyway less concerned with this matter than the aforementioned one above.

My 2 cents


As long as there's no BM use of mitigation (MDR/PDR) + ES, you should beat sorcs.

Hybrids don't need Lo against Trappers.
Trappers (C/C) don't need Vex against Sorcs.
Ghosts get +5 max or + absorb.

This post was edited by young2093 on Feb 4 2015 01:03pm
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Feb 4 2015 12:59pm
Quote (StriferZer0 @ Feb 4 2015 02:20pm)
Lol i doubt you killed max with smiter vs druid maybe pubbing it's not a huge deal I don't see any tap smiter beating me or especially non on smiter if i play right


Rekt both of you on my tap vt
its on youtube

1 piece of tap is fine
exile isnt ...

Not only you get 15% Life tap
you also get a shit load of def

I remember dueling riz and his ghost friends back to back
I would literally aim for the shadow on purpose lmao
Also, once life tap is up, it doesnt go away in seconds...
Matchup becomes 1sided

Inb4 Bui calls me out

This post was edited by CallMeMatt on Feb 4 2015 01:05pm
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Feb 4 2015 01:09pm
Imo:
Exile is too much (3x as much as Dracul's)
1x +5 max or Dwarf/Wisp is acceptable on Ghost
No max/absorb on C/C sins with more than 1 point in traps
Standard absorb/max rules for w/s variants (85 or 80/20)
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Quote (young2093 @ Feb 4 2015 03:39pm)
Imo:
Exile is too much (3x as much as Dracul's)
1x +5 max or Dwarf/Wisp is acceptable on Ghost
No max/absorb on C/C sins with more than 1 point in traps
Standard absorb/max rules for w/s variants (85 or 80/20)

i think smiters have no chance vs barbs w/o exile, even with it its unfair

it's arguable vs druid, but what if they use max block or 99fcr/stormshield? then it's a lot harder to win as well

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Quote (marvel. @ Feb 4 2015 02:24pm)
i think smiters have no chance vs barbs w/o exile, even with it its unfair

it's arguable vs druid, but what if they use max block or 99fcr/stormshield? then it's a lot harder to win as well


a smiter should beat a barb 95/100 without tap.

only against a druid would I say it is something almost necessary to make it competitive.
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Feb 4 2015 01:35pm
Quote (n9neballking @ Feb 4 2015 04:03pm)
a smiter should beat a barb 95/100 without tap.

only against a druid would I say it is something almost necessary to make it competitive.


lol
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Quote (marvel. @ Feb 4 2015 03:24pm)
i think smiters have no chance vs barbs w/o exile, even with it its unfair

it's arguable vs druid, but what if they use max block or 99fcr/stormshield? then it's a lot harder to win as well



Not really sure about that matchup to be honest.
Exile just seems like a bit much Smite vs Druid.
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Quote (marvel. @ Feb 4 2015 02:35pm)
lol


Go back to British columbia and LoL forums, not like you know ANYTHING about d2 anyway, who are you ?????
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Quote (marvel. @ Feb 4 2015 03:24pm)
i think smiters have no chance vs barbs w/o exile, even with it its unfair

it's arguable vs druid, but what if they use max block or 99fcr/stormshield? then it's a lot harder to win as well


smiters definately shouldn't lose to barbs esp w/ exile.

as for druid i think the tap off his zoo is a lil bit op.
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