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Nov 3 2020 08:28pm
oh, so this is like that time the dvd community made a separate ladder banning Shockwave because they didn't understand stun and how to counter swirls on their 99 fcr max block druids?
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Quote (legen @ Nov 3 2020 09:28pm)
oh, so this is like that time the dvd community made a separate ladder banning Shockwave because they didn't understand stun and how to counter swirls on their 99 fcr max block druids?


some are sayin that body glitch plus charge desyncs too much that its not fun to play against. because charge closes distance fast that smites pop off from far away sometimes.
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Nov 3 2020 08:40pm
but your playing charge-melee pallys, that literally like the only strategy/skill involved lmao

you guys ever skill bug hammer/charge and stomp telesmite from off map? Would probably blow some people's minds
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Nov 3 2020 08:42pm
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but your playing charge-melee pallys, that literally like the only strategy/skill involved lmao

you guys ever skill bug hammer/charge and stomp telesmite from off map? Would probably blow some people's minds


i think your generalizing vtpk to be simple melee duel but its fast paced and theres a lot of timings and countering happening including namelocks off screen with throws or foh.
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Nov 3 2020 08:46pm
The way I see is this.
VTPK is a small community with x number of active players. Get these active players to vote, strength bug or no strength bug.
The majority votes will dictate the rule for the VTPK community. Those players are the only ones that matter.

Many people posting in here don't even vtpk and only want to poke at you. Therefore, don't listen to these people.

I vtpk now and then and I can say that strength bugging a char was never an issue. This should be allowed imo.
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Nov 3 2020 08:49pm
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some are sayin that body glitch plus charge desyncs too much that its not fun to play against. because charge closes distance fast that smites pop off from far away sometimes.



By reading this seems like you still havnt clearly understand it either.
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Nov 3 2020 08:55pm
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i think your generalizing vtpk to be simple melee duel but its fast paced and theres a lot of timings and countering happening including namelocks off screen with throws or foh.


im not claiming to be a smite vs smite expert, but in my limited 15 years of pvping, I am having a hard time picturing much more to the match up lol

i imagine using high charge damage to attempt to hit and run though a 30k def max block char could actually be effective, but literally thats hard countered by standing against a pond to negate charge with hf up holding a shift click nl'd smite, let alone chipping with foh (and like its 2020, foh literally should only be used to follow up stunned stomps at this point...)


heres another scenario though, you said there are people who use btals? Are you really going to force them to hard stat strength 40 points over btals req just to prevent strength bugging? Thatd be ridicious right? lol
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im not claiming to be a smite vs smite expert, but in my limited 15 years of pvping, I am having a hard time picturing much more to the match up lol

i imagine using high charge damage to attempt to hit and run though a 30k def max block char could actually be effective, but literally thats hard countered by standing against a pond to negate charge with hf up holding a shift click nl'd smite, let alone chipping with foh (and like its 2020, foh literally should only be used to follow up stunned stomps at this point...)


heres another scenario though, you said there are people who use btals? Are you really going to force them to hard stat strength 40 points over btals req just to prevent strength bugging? Thatd be ridicious right? lol


i never proposed the ban of str bugging.I know how to play against it. not hard to guess where the enemy might be given a players style. foh and hf checks desyncs. you do have play more patient until true location reveals.

but i can understand why some ppl like tabuu wants to ban it and their point of view.
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Nov 3 2020 09:02pm
Also, i saw that post of the guy claiming his credit card pally doesn't use +str on rings/ammy and it is completely unfair to strength bug vs him. Like, you guys do know that you could put a +30 str ammy in your inventory and you that to equip enigma? Just a quick swap while picking up your body (assuming you are only using the smite vs smite char in priv gm dueks) that would keep you strength bugged for free. ~30 life after bo isnt gonna make a difference in smite contests. Hell, you probably would even get higher life if you had to stat any str (although i image that credit card build actually used something silly like a mp enigma lol)
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Also, i saw that post of the guy claiming his credit card pally doesn't use +str on rings/ammy and it is completely unfair to strength bug vs him. Like, you guys do know that you could put a +30 str ammy in your inventory and you that to equip enigma? Just a quick swap while picking up your body (assuming you are only using the smite vs smite char in priv gm dueks) that would keep you strength bugged for free. ~30 life after bo isnt gonna make a difference in smite contests. Hell, you probably would even get higher life if you had to stat any str (although i image that credit card build actually used something silly like a mp enigma lol)


lmfao

its not a smite contest bub

This post was edited by KappaDpride on Nov 3 2020 10:34pm
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