Why don't you respond to this:

Do you have multiple personalities or something ? You are saying We like you’re speaking for everyone that goes to a pub game. Just say
“I don’t want cold damage because I use a slow ass cruel and I don’t know how to build around cbf, you guys do what you want “

wow, now its a personality issue huh? well, dude, we know how to build our barbs. if u wanna play cold or whatever, go ahead, non of our business thb. but dont take urself too serious, u cant force players what to play and how to play. stop bothering, quoting and get a life. END!

Never seen raven frost banned in pvp before

Cold dmg was banned after the ias patch as it nurfed barb significantly. It was banned with a specific reason after a week-long test.

I don't know who the voters were, but myself, Garen, DaC-Hader, ggBvB all other gg barb was not involved in the vote.

There's no logic for allowing cold dmg in the barb room again.

Some say raven frost is a necessary setup for a fool's weapon build. But.. are you serious??? Just go get the craft ring.

I say this on be half of many US barbs. We do not allow cold dmg in 'barb vs barb'. If you still want to use it, then go make your own room.

We are at 'barb vs barb' most of the time. It is hilarious that someone who does not play often wants to change to rule without a logical reasoning.

My first post is logical reasoning. Banning cold damage was a weak crutch for many complainers. It is time to undo a rule that was set for the lazy. Many people are pushing rare weapon duels now, and hate on grief. But you can’t use cold with rare weapons too? Are you serious? What kind of lame lazy shit is that. lol

Also the discord invite is open. Even if 11 more barbs voted no cold. It still would have passed.

This post was edited by Tier1 on Dec 28 2023 07:27pm

I want to add a couple of things too because this seems very silly

1. Tier1 initiated the vote in the Discord server that is the official host of the GM melee communities. GM BvB has long been seen as a companion to the GM melee community, so there are several channels dedicated to GM bvb in that Discord. Tier1 has done more for the GM melee and related communities than anyone that has posted in this thread so far by creating multiple ladders, hosting multiple tournaments (including BvB ones, where you yourself happily participated and won), and moderating a Discord of nearly 200 community members. When you refuse to join this server, you are in essence saying that you don't care to provide your input or perspectives on a platform where everyone can communicate about community issues/decisions.

2. You and the other fellow that posted here aren't the "owners" of barb vs barb where you can decide what GM rules are and aren't. Respectfully, the community decides that with votes. In 2023, every single video game community in existence is run out of a Discord. We have voted on many community issues in gm melee so that the majority of players get to decide on how they duel. It's not right that some people are claiming they are too "casual" to get into the Discord to vote on this seemingly important issue.

Cold is banned because it was affecting the Whirlwind's frame badly. It is not banned because we are lazy.

You are about to ruin the barb duel, just to allow rare weapon with cold dmg. I don't think that's logical.

Hating grief is fine. But that doesn't mean you can force everyone to use rare weapons.

It all seems to me that you (and others) want to eventually sell some specific items by allowing cold dmg.

I'm very unfortunate to see this happening.

I appreciated your effort on running the ladder, but this is just non-sense idiotism to me and many other barbs.

You can keep ignoring us and do what the heck ever you want. But cold dmg will not be welcomed in 'barb vs barb'.

Melee and BvB are two very different leagues. I understand and appreciate his effort on running the ladder.

But that doesn't mean he can change the rules ignoring many barbs who were presented at 'barb vs barb' 90% of the time.

We are complaining since those voters (including Tier1) almost never shows up in the 'barb vs barb' room and decided to change the rules.

Initiating the vote acknowledging many bvb barbs are not in the discord channel just seems to be very ignorant act.

Joining discord shouldn't be mandatory. If you want to initiate the vote, why wouldn't you do it on jsp?

banned cold damage was a weak crutch? lmao dude just because u get your hands on a fools weapon that adds cold dmg u want to add cold dmg to bvb thats all. banning cold dmg isnt for the weak players its for the players that dont need to rely on cold dmg to win. if anything adding cold dmg IS a crutch to your barb because u have to waste a good spot for raven or cham a SS when u could use tha socket for a 40/15. your logic isnt making sense just because u wanna use your cold dmg fools man. on top of that youre being rude to people that dont like cold dmg.


when is the people that talk on discord the community now? why isnt the community the people that actually play in Barb vs barb in NL? if anything u guys voted for whoever plays with you. you didnt vote for the community. if we dont want to use cold damage in barb vs barb arent doing it. its simple.