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Feb 23 2021 06:22pm
Seems like a fun discussion to go on about w/ some of you newcomers and/or oldies from way back in the day that still frequent the forum who PvP'd and w/ D2R coming out who knows if it'll still be w/in the game or not.

If they removed them from D2 and/or D2R that's coming out (especially WSG), would you still want to PVP?
Was it considered OP (overpowered) to you?
Was it considered a MUST HAVE mechanic to you to enjoy PvPing?

Can't make a poll so I guess just post your thoughts/suggestions on the matter.

For those who don't know what WSG/Desynch/IBS (etc) is:
Weapon Switch Glitch is a mechanic in Diablo 2 PvP where you constantly hit W (or whatever your hotkey for weapon switching/swapping is) to get out of FHR animation/stun locks.
Desynch is when you move faster than the server updates your opponents minimap so if you move quick enough you appear to be in the wrong place, or invisible.
Invisible Bone Spirits (Also applies to Nados, Fireball, GA etc) is a mechanic in Diablo 2 PvP where you constantly spam Bone Spirits off screen and they can hit your opponents invisibly.

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My opinion:
Back in the OG days of PvP (1.10/1.11 and I THINK 1.12 I don't remember exactly) WSG wasn't really a thing for PvP, so I personally wouldn't mind if it was removed/patched.
Although having playing w/ it for years afterwards (I forgot what patch it trended in, I think 1.12), it's now a norm and hard to look past it playing w/o it.
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Feb 23 2021 06:25pm
nvm

This post was edited by Kapoo on Feb 23 2021 06:26pm
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Feb 23 2021 06:30pm
Would rather have it in but ima play the shit out of this game and pvp either way
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Feb 23 2021 06:32pm
In my opinion desync and IBS are not really vital to the pvp experience.
although desync interacts with WSG in a very significant way, I think to maintain the integrity of D2 pvp at its core, WSG is the only mechanic that needs to remain out of these options.
WSG is fundamental to not only a plethora of 1v1 matchups, but fpking or team pking as well.
Imagine getting MB'd with 3+ traps and druid cano'd without wsg. kekw
However with no desync certain strategies will no longer be viable. i.e down wsging while up spearing shit tier druids that blindly stomp on your desynced body. Although losing the viability of strategies of this sort, i still believe no desync would be healthier for competitive pvp.

An interesting topic would be the implementation of minion stack.
Are wolves going to properly block ww's?
Is BP going to block WW's?
Plenty of private servers get these very fundamental mechanics wrong, lets hope the remastered team doesnt take these lightly.
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Feb 23 2021 06:35pm
Quote (Aaronoob @ Feb 23 2021 06:30pm)
Would rather have it in but ima play the shit out of this game and pvp either way



my thoughts exactly
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Feb 23 2021 06:56pm
Anything invisible isn't vital to the fuckin game and should be removed from pvp
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Feb 23 2021 07:03pm
Quote (Gringito @ Feb 23 2021 07:56pm)
Anything invisible isn't vital to the fuckin game and should be removed from pvp


kinda feel the same way
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Feb 23 2021 07:04pm
Literally none of us would play this game if you couldnt wsg.

Stupid thread.


Its been proven before when blizzard fucked up the last patch.

This post was edited by TriWinning on Feb 23 2021 07:05pm
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Feb 23 2021 07:08pm
Quote (Gringito @ Feb 23 2021 07:56pm)
Anything invisible isn't vital to the fuckin game and should be removed from pvp


100%

It entirely wrecks newcomers thoughts of getting into pvp too. Better yet, you ever try explaining these mechanics to friends that don't play?
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Feb 23 2021 07:11pm
Quote (destroyered @ Feb 23 2021 08:08pm)
100%

It entirely wrecks newcomers thoughts of getting into pvp too. Better yet, you ever try explaining these mechanics to friends that don't play?


wtf is so hard about describing and visualizing wsg? Litterally every non retard on diablo can do it


/e even 95% of the retards can do it

This post was edited by TriWinning on Feb 23 2021 07:12pm
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