-I hope the mods do not remove this post and put it in a dueling thread because the classic community is small and it will be overshadowed by XPAC posts. *At least give us months for discourse/banter/brain storming

This is an initial post for idea farming. I'm tired of pvming all the time and would like to put my pvp gear to use. If you want to have fun/learn/flex your muscles please comment

Thinking there could be a tournament whenever a new ladder starts. Randomly throughout the year

Incentives like gear and FG could be earned

There could be a point system, win/loss ratios to figure out who actually is the best

I would like to see the Classic OGs involved because they continue to keep the game alive and I know their advice has allowed me to be successful in the game

I would love to see xpac players involved because their frequent dueling is a motivation for this post

LLD MLD HLD duels

matchups could be randomized, specific duels could be made (BVB,SVS etc.), team duels, battle royal

This post was edited by skiptomylou on Oct 3 2024 02:19pm

You'd probably want to setup rules first. And this is usually a very controversial thing :).

There are plenty of legacy rule-sets around of some which are written which may need to be reworked. On EU we used the set below mostly, which you could take as a base. Idk if there is a written one around from Americas (East/West).

Regarding bvb you will need to define which builds are allowed in which tournaments (bleeder, def, cold dmg, pre-bo ...). Example of a bvb tournament: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69953614&f=147

Regarding SVS: review thunderstorm, max repl. Life on certain builds, max res

Necro: review Bone prison/ wall, clay golem

Barb: review leap

Pala: review FoH

For tvt you may want to set certain res-limits, skills which are not allowed in certain setups.

If you want to be succesful (in terms of setting up a community around it) it will be hard work :).

Link to an old pvp-community: https://web.archive.org/web/20081212203419fw_/http://d2classic.net/



This post was edited by SIVIART on Oct 3 2024 01:45pm

eurp was always rules
east was always basically no rules

so generally no, there isnt one writen for east, it was very simple

you could only use mana and the first person to 5 won (towning counted as a death/point)


sometimes people take this " no rules " way out of context and call it BM dueling, not at all
all of these rules were GM

im a god user, i do not care what these players want to try to use against me to help them win

if they want to use hotspurs+noak, i dont care
if they want to use 300CR + 100 replenish, let them i dont care

the game is for the most part balanced, adding what a player can and cannot use. only switches power
around nerf one character to make another op

imo these rules were made up by weaker users who could not over come in most senarios

a not so strong fireball user crys 95FR oh hotspurs op hotspurs bm noak op noak bm but really likely
they only getting outplayed by a stronger user/build as those things aint even best in slot

i just never felt the way eurp feels because im such a strong user, it doesnt mater if the player im dueling is
using this stuff i still win. and even more so, why would i want to force a rule to make a user im already beating not aloud to use something and make him ever weaker, and now we are both nitpicking each others build forcing remakes cause too stronkk

This post was edited by Jvun7 on Oct 3 2024 01:44pm

Due to D2R changes in 2.4 patch

Leap is now banned vs Nec and Amazon. +70% speed from previous patch makes it too strong

FOR SVS thunderstorm is banned aswell

and old rules banning slow on amazon is wrong. slow is mendatory vs some characters to even be able to call it a duel ( in old game you could glitch frw and desync your amazon to take advantage on barb, but now its over so slow is mandatory, is not even game breaking )

This post was edited by Gaya on Oct 3 2024 02:02pm

I didnt say EU is the way. Just said we had rules. I know east didnt have rules. I also played east a long time ;). But also I dont remember of any legitimated way on east, of how duelists were measured or even ranked. Can you tell me how east did? I remember every1 just bragged about how much they owned each other

Also did you ever participate in organized tournaments?

It could also simply start without rules. That would be the best way to start anyway. Maybe rules would follow.

I just gave some inputs for the OP to consider. Some1 would need to take the lead. But if it will even happen idk ... Look at the low player base. I doubt it

This post was edited by SIVIART on Oct 3 2024 01:56pm

One can interprete the rules as a codex to keep the variety of all classes available. For that matter the purpose would be, not to keep f.e. amas out of the duels, cause they obv cannot compete in classic with buffed leap and stuff.

Author, i guess, is more focused on a community event than finding the player with the most game abusing strategies out there.

Cool idea. I think there could be alot of decent ideas borrowed from the way some of the LOD tourneys are done.

I have some personal input on what I would hope for regarding HLD BVB specifically. I'd like to see the HLD BVB split into separate divisions.

* Legacy 2-hand division
- Category dedicated to 2-hand builds only. (open wounds, cleglaw set, twitch, & rattle cage not allowed in this category)

* Legacy 1-hand division
- Category dedicated to 1-hand builds only. (open wounds, cleglaw set, twitch, & rattle cage not allowed in this category)

* Open division
- Category open to bleeder & cleglaw builds, with the possibility of other builds joining if desired (all sets & uniques allowed in this category)

One potential issue to think about here, is maximum level requirements. Having a lower max level requirement, like say somewhere between 80-86 for example, may bring in more participants than if we allow the high level 90s to compete in the same division.

I like the idea, gonna throw my BVB lvl 90 after reset

bvb is something ok. but we have 5 characters

just for the records: non-bleeder ruleset of past legacy EU