Any more recent builds/guides out there then the 2000's?
Not sure how much of it is relevant/up to date.
Been looking and coming up short #isuck@this

the setup is entirely dependent on how focused you are on the foh portion. you can make a standard 30 charger with a foh scepter on swap...or you can make a full foh build with your extra points & sockets going to charge...or anything in between. put something together, provide that, then ask questions on what you're forgetting or missing, and it'll go a lot smoother.

Yea basically ask to see one on legacy of whatever build you’re contemplating. Someone would have done it and explored its efficacy by now etc. For a charge/foh.. assuming you aren’t working smite in because that makes the gear complicated, you’d just use a divine honor with foh/conv on it and have a big dmg insight.. something like a partizan if you wanna give up that much str.

Some guides are dated yea but items didn’t change and no new metas were discovered. By 2015 people realized only barbs and zons had untapped potential.. firewall sorcs could be immortal, and hdins were still gay

Fair enough mate! I essentially wanna be a charger with foh scepter on swap like u stated. Thinking it might be worth putting points in holy shock rather then max the might aura to make the foh worth using. I have a 2foh/3convic scepter already. Not sure what to socket it with. Was thinking peasent crown/blood fists/tearhaunch/string/2xsoj/crown spirit then Partizan insight on swap. I have no idea what to use for armor.. viper magi? Not sure what to socket the helm/armor with either or if runeword is better suited.

Hopefully not too much info reads like wall of text 🤣

Not sure if 5os scepters are hard to find for the Honor runeword in d2r but unless you were doing something weird and niche like a MAX DAMAGE foh char.. you wouldn’t use a Magic scepter

I play on PlayStation, as far as I can tell a 5os scepter with even foh or conviction let alone both mods have been found yet. Not sure if it's shoppable? Pre much just use the scepter/spirit for foh then swap for the charge. Would it not be viable without honor runeword?

this is a very basic & budget setup i just put together for you:
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/ic0106zv

1000 life, 48fhr, 75res
650 foh
2800 1h charge
4400 2h charge

the charms are also super budget. you can also have a spirit shroud in stash for foh duels, or squeeze in some life/mana scs if you want higher than 450 mana.

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Dec 12 2021 02:59pm

It would definitely give the character real vulnerabilities when the pvp scene develops further. Like you don’t wanna condition your opponents to know you have shit charge damage when they see conviction lol. I’m sure the char can get kills in d2r by concept alone but not for long I’m guessing.

Surely you’ll find a white scepter before you get some massive Eth/rep weapon.. Honor just ends up being the best of both worlds. As far as enjoying just a charger on d2r.. seems like almost everything playing is a caster.. just make a big insight and eatttt

Dang thanks for ur time man, this site is crazy I'm gonna have to play around with it appreciate it! Very close to what I was imagining





Yeah haha the hunt continues. Do you know by chance if a white scepter is shoppable? I think white socketable items stop being shoppable at clvl 20 don't they? Could you get +foh/+convi at that LVL from shop? Sorry so many questions

id like to share some of my opinions with the build:

1) putting a hard point into foh gives you access to Zeal, and even as a 1-pointer, itll be very useful in some matchups (charge v charge). chargers tend to not like being still, they prefer doing in-and-outs. this offers you pretty much a free dmg tool right after you connect with someone, before charging away. you could also surprise a tele ww barb stomp with it.

2) you can sacrifice 3 point in Might to put a hard point into fanatism and use that as your dmg'ing aura. the ed% from the auras is very similar, except fanat gives you an healthy atk rating boost and increase zeal speed. so all in all, its a better aura to use imo.

3) 450 mana is kind of low on a foher. imo, youd want to be closer to 550-650 through charms. ideally, youd have an honor divine with foh AND medit on it (you cant put a hard point in medit, 1-point prayer is banned).

4) some matchups will not require foh at all (bowzon, charger, kickers) so you should remove your 2 sojs (mdr bug) and equip 5min 90mana rings instead. in contrast, you should remove Peace armor for a spirit shroud in matchups where you mostly foh, like necros/frw ww barbs/hdins.

5) stay away from conviction. first, its very easy to prepare against (60-70 lres stack). second, you could be using medit instead to reduce your out-of-mana downtime. third, staying close to apply conv may be dangerous, especially vs stuff like necros that can bonewall-charge-stuck you and land spears, or a high frw barb that can catch you unaware.

6) like sack said, try to not have several 1h setups, you become too predictable and clunky otherwise. have EVERTHING on a single setup, and switch your auras/atk skill depending on situation. for instance, if you are foh'ing a hammerdin while hes in a hammerfield, often time it will bring them out to come closer to you. when hdins charge, their def=0 and block=25%, so you can literally squeeze in a sneaky charge while theyre not surrounded by hammers and steal wins that way. you cant do that if youre always between 2 scepter swaps.

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Dec 12 2021 03:28pm