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Dec 8 2021 12:48pm
I have been debating making a charger build with a mix of poison dmg and near 100% OW.

I'm either going to attempt this with a Malice sup battle hammer 15%ED on weapon swap and then a real KO hitter on the other weapon swap.

OR a good weapon main hand and then boneflesh/sword back




How much life does the OW even chip away at on L30 duels ? Is poison damage via small charms or 6Xtal on a weapon even worth it at this level?
I am aware of PVP penalties but has anyone ever tried something like this?


I wanted to have one swap that basically stops the enemy health regen or possible eats at it. Maybe it's a fail build idea.. would be nice to hear some opinions.

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Dec 8 2021 01:47pm
life drain for OW for lvls 16-30 = (18*lvl) - 104

30 x 18 = 540 (-104) = 436

OW melee vs a player = 1/4 dmg

436 x .25 = 109

ranged fyi = 1/8 dmg

so 109 dmg over 8 seconds (200 frames)

and IMO a sin using dflight and a malice claw would be far better, as they have access to venom, the best poi skill.

edit, replife is a direct counter to OW, meaning if u do 109 dmg and they have 30 replife, simplified u do 79 dmg.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 8 2021 01:48pm
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Dec 8 2021 01:54pm
poi can also be applied at the same time, as im sure u know.

and OW can be reapplied, which just starts the 8 secs over, doesnt stack.
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Dec 8 2021 03:23pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 8 2021 02:47pm)
life drain for OW for lvls 16-30 = (18*lvl) - 104

30 x 18 = 540 (-104) = 436

OW melee vs a player = 1/4 dmg

436 x .25 = 109

ranged fyi = 1/8 dmg

so 109 dmg over 8 seconds (200 frames)

and IMO a sin using dflight and a malice claw would be far better, as they have access to venom, the best poi skill.

edit, replife is a direct counter to OW, meaning if u do 109 dmg and they have 30 replife, simplified u do 79 dmg.


what snipa said matches with my in-game findings.

when I OW someone, it usually takes away 80 globe hp over 8 seconds. However, some people have 10-20 rep, so 109 initial dmg sounds very very correct.
that said, im not sure a pure charger would best use this. perhaps a smite/foh of sorts, with 1 point charge.

as for your poison idea, scs can get 15 dmg over 3s. and the way psn stacks in d2r is: dmg added, duration averaged. so if you have 40x 15over3sec, 15lifer scs. thats 600 dmg over 3s. 600 dmg /6 pvp penalty then /4 resist, thats barely 25 final dmg. its very very low for a high inventory commitment. the only viable psn build i know of is psn javzons, and even then they arent very high tier.

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Dec 8 2021 03:27pm
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Dec 8 2021 06:12pm
Ditch the ow & psn and focus on ds/crit
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Dec 8 2021 08:59pm
wow I knew it was negligible dmg but this is not viable at all. You guys are right... even a single max dmg jewel is better than OW or full poison stash.

Not viable unless it's already part of existing gear build (i.e. smiter using swordback hold, assassin claw etc)

This post was edited by organicgreens519 on Dec 8 2021 08:59pm
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