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so im planning on building a lvl 30 passive jab (melee) zon, based around this jav

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=90580202&f=268&p=595530490#p595530490




my thoughts were massive block, with most of my points in critical strike and penetrate with 1 in jab and a couple in each dodge orrrrrr max dodge and avoid,
cant rlly decide, mostly cause my knowledge of the mechanics only goes so far lol
back in the day i used to make some pretty decent max block jab zons, but there was never any actual science to it regarding game mechanics.. i just threw some shit on and poked people

so what i guess im wondering is as follows lol.. what ar range do i need to be shooting for? around 10k huh?
what about IAS and FHR bp's.. and obviously open to gear recommendations :D
im thinking basic shit,, like ryme grim, some passive ias gloves, string, ck boots, not sure on armor and helm.. hell im not sure on anything, maybe deaths gloves belt with wihstans shield, or i could go like .. i dunno,
depends on BP's im trying to hit i guess, how important would ias even be with a jab build??.... maybe i could just go like CB gear?,, rcage gores with deaths belt glove type shit?,, lol.. like i said open to suggestions
or maybe build it like a smiter? jeweled armor/helm/shield with max dmg? too many options...

anything i need to know? is this a dumb idea? lol...

is the jav even worth building anything around?...



thoughts?

This post was edited by Paribellum420 on Dec 1 2021 08:20am
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here is ur IAS calc, looks like 30 ias gloves (deaths/iks/sigons) will net u 6 frame on those javs. any more than that requires twitch or other undesirable stuff.

a lot def, high dmg, deaths/up'd twitch/etc build could work

my gut is telling me 20ed/9dex jewels will net u more dmg than +max ones for all sockets. whitstans on that low str setup will give insane blocking comparatively.

at a random guess:

3 os mask +20 life / 60 ed / 27 dex
up'd twitch / ED/dex (lvl 25 or less jewel)
deaths belt and gloves
whitstans ed/dex jewel'd
ur javs
angelics ammy and 2x rings, or 1 rare ar/str/dex/mana ring
sanders boots (cks cause mdr bug)

crit strike 20 pts
jab 20 pts
dodge 1 pt
inner sight 1 pt

could back off jab a bit for more dodge, but getting caught in the animation is annoying af tbh



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To me doesn't seem worth building some niche melee build around that javelin without IAS. Its not even that great, just so little to choose from in that department so far..
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Quote (mungered @ Dec 1 2021 09:41am)
To me doesn't seem worth building some niche melee build around that javelin without IAS. Its not even that great, just so little to choose from in that department so far..


this early is the only time a jabber will get wins tho!

once items settle it will go back to zeal/conc, and maybe fury given they fucked up non-wep ias and they might hit 3 fpa or even easier hit 4 fpa with harder hitting weps.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 1 2021 06:45am)
this early is the only time a jabber will get wins tho!

once items settle it will go back to zeal/conc, and maybe fury given they fucked up non-wep ias and they might hit 3 fpa or even easier hit 4 fpa with harder hitting weps.


True and some people just enjoy point and click melee and there's nothing wrong with that of course. My first lld was the cookie cutter 18 zealer.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 1 2021 08:45am)
this early is the only time a jabber will get wins tho!

once items settle it will go back to zeal/conc, and maybe fury given they fucked up non-wep ias and they might hit 3 fpa or even easier hit 4 fpa with harder hitting weps.


but built correctly --- jab zon > all melee

or, without a doubt, no? lol




a ww barb already completely fucked me up lol.. but shes not "built built" yet -- not sure itll help

This post was edited by Paribellum420 on Dec 1 2021 07:58pm
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If you want to have success on a jabber lvl 9 is the go to

You can say 18 but even then the skill is so outclassed by other melees
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Quote (Paribellum420 @ Dec 1 2021 08:55pm)
but built correctly --- jab zon > all melee

or, without a doubt, no? lol




a ww barb already completely fucked me up lol.. but shes not "built built" yet -- not sure itll help


built in the best gear possible for the jabber vs even a budget zeal the zeal will win. ww isnt melee tho, thats bm vs a jabber.
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built in the best gear possible for the jabber vs even a budget zeal the zeal will win. ww isnt melee tho, thats bm vs a jabber.


the ww barb could prob just norm attack the zon to death tbh
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Quote (Jerm @ Dec 2 2021 08:20am)
the ww barb could prob just norm attack the zon to death tbh


ya even perfectly built jabber just doesnt stand a chance
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