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Nov 22 2021 11:19am
This is a rough estimation of the current state of the classes in D2r @ 30.
Bear in mind that this is with no restrictions on anything, so mindblast and a fully synergised firewaller are here.
Also bear in mind that alot of chars are still being geared so there will be a big disparity.
We have a very old breed, and very new breed of players, that are not familiar with the Tele staff meta (bear that in mind when reviewing).

This is just something for new and old players to have an idea of the current state of play.

Thanks to Werewolf12345 for drafting this and spending time to discuss this with me earlier ~
I will make a light sorc only to get some green's on the board for that build (cant be worse then a shaper haha).
An update on this will be provided once players have telestaffs and accepted norms are established (and more fully geared).



S Tier - LS Trapper
A Tier - Wof Trapper
A Tier - Firewaller
A Tier - Kicker
B Tier - FireBaller
B Tier - Blizz Sorc
B Tier - Charger
C Tier - Bowa
C Tier - WW (like to move with telestaff)
C Tier - Fissure (not convinced but results have it here at the moment, it could be due to increased screen size).
C Tier - Hammerdin (not utilising charge - like to move with charge)
C Tier - V/T (not utilising charge - likely to move with charge)
C Tier - Bone Necro
C Tier - Psn Zon
D Tier - Nado (Likely to move with telestaff)
D Tier - CS Zon
F Tier - Shaper (unlikely to move)

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 22 2021 11:37am
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Nov 22 2021 11:27am
I dueled a fury druid and with 3 frames they do a lot of damage. I think it should be 0 not +1 for cs in that m/u.

btw thanks for eye cancer.
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Nov 22 2021 11:28am
I dont disagree with you. I guess most shapers are just not properly geared yet. I will see if i can find a well geared shaper and get him to test vs a cs zon.

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Quote (ferdia @ 22 Nov 2021 12:28)
I dont disagree with you. I guess most shapers are just not properly geared yet. I will see if i can find a well geared shaper and get him to test vs a cs zon.


Well mine is all finished except for tele stick so I could be the cs side in that test
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Nov 22 2021 11:41am
cool.
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People should start learning to use tele staff on barb lol
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If anyone wants to test duels vs a Firewaller or Libby, let me know. I will try to get my Assassin working asap.

A hot chick and a fearsome young wolf cub will test Cs vs Shaper shortly ~ if you can give us an idea of your FHR guys (is shaper using x2 soj and peace, how much ias on cs zon etc).

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Nov 22 2021 12:42pm
almost done my fissure druid :bonk:
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Nov 22 2021 12:48pm
my old ls trapper held rank 1 for a bit long time ago. my blizzard sorc is ready for team vs teams.

imo we should see how it all plays out in real time then adjust. zons are always gona be op.
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