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Nov 6 2021 10:47pm
Hey guys

Got a lvl 30 kicker i keep reworking

Current question...

Are Shadow Master and Venom worth it?

It would cost me putting points into Fade, Venom, Weapon Block (i dont use dual claw so pointless), shadow warrior, and shadow master

This is 5 total skill points.

I think i have venom dmg worked out

The lvl i would be able to cast does 170 dmg over 0.4sec
with pvp penalty that 28.9 dmg
with 75 resist (all lld have 75 resist)
thats 7.2 dmg over 4 seconds

i might apply it twice in 1 dragon talon, so an extra 14-15dmg per kick cycle

And ive had shadow master on since i made her, but i cant really tell if its useful at all.

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Nov 6 2021 10:59pm
Are you pure kicker?
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Nov 6 2021 11:01pm
venom doesnt require a point in weap block, just fade and venom. so its a 2 point sacrifice. that said, i think you cant skip weap block caus you *really* want shadow warrior, its amazing vs some matchups like chargers or v/t. i briefly tried shadow master and its tankier for sure, but it uses pepega skills. instead of casting traps & mind blast like warrior, it just runs in and punches with charge-up martial art skills. warrior mimics the skill on your rmb (if you leave lmb to normal atk). so if you chase/chain a bowzon, itll help you catch her by casting df/mb/wof and proc'ing their dodge animation. same story for sorcs, if you chase them with mind blast on your rmb, they can cast it randomly while you run at them, giving you an opportunity to jump on them and lock.

170 dmg, 1/6 pvp reduction, 1/4 at 75 res. thats 7 dmg to their hp pool x2 per 5 kicks like you said so 14 dmg.

my personal opinion is that these 2 points are better spent elsewhere, like in mind blast for an extra 0.4s stun duration (unless youve already maxed it). BoS is also a possibility for more frw.
what is your skill plan like, 20 dtalon, 1 df, 7 mind blast, 1 warrior, 1 wof, 1 ls?

an alternative is you just use a shitty +venom claw on your swap and use that to prebuff.

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Nov 6 2021 11:17pm
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Nov 7 2021 01:48am
my own view is shadow warrior is better then master (saves skills, mimics you) and that venom is worth it but that u get same from claws
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Nov 8 2021 03:14am
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 7 2021 09:48am)
my own view is shadow warrior is better then master (saves skills, mimics you) and that venom is worth it but that u get same from claws


This. Being able to control what the summon does is a huge deal, even if it has a lower hp pool etc. It should always be spamming psychic hammer or mindblast.
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