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This post was edited by Antoniolozada14 on Oct 10 2021 09:22am
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I’m pretty sure native ED mods never interfered with anything in that way but in general it works like this:
If I socket a 20ed 8min jewel into an armor piece... 20ed applies to my max range, 8min applies to my min range.

If you used a 20ed/8min/6str jewel in an armor piece for a barb, for instance... strength applies itself as 1ed per stat point so.. 20ed applies to my max/8 min to my min/ 6%ed to both min/max range.

Also, may not even be important in your case but the max/ed bug doesn’t seem to work for ranged attacks.. ie. A bowa could appreciate using 20ed/15max in a 3/80 armor and get a lot of GA/throw damage for what used to just be 3 cheap magic jewels.

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I’m pretty sure native ED mods never interfered with anything in that way but in general it works like this:
If I socket a 20ed 8min jewel into an armor piece... 20ed applies to my max range, 8min applies to my min range.

If you used a 20ed/8min/6str jewel in an armor piece for a barb, for instance... strength applies itself as 1ed per stat point so.. 20ed applies to my max/8 min to my min/ 6%ed to both min/max range.

Also, may not even be important in your case but the max/ed bug doesn’t seem to work for ranged attacks.. ie. A bowa could appreciate using 20ed/15max in a 3/80 armor and get a lot of GA/throw damage for what used to just be 3 cheap magic jewels.


ty for explaining. tbh i dont see the big deal. sure, that 20ed wont help the min or max dmg from that jewel, but its still 20ed that applies to your character dmg (which is massive). and that flat dmg still goes through the ed of every other slot and skills.
20ed of 8dmg is not even 2 extra sheet dmg.

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Oct 10 2021 05:18pm
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ty for explaining. tbh i dont see the big deal. sure, that 20ed wont help the min or max dmg from that jewel, but its still 20ed that applies to your character dmg (which is massive). and that flat dmg still goes through the ed of every other slot and skills.
20ed of 8dmg is not even 2 extra sheet dmg.


That’s not how jewels work. 20ed isn’t “of 8 damage”... why would one mod on a jewel influence another in that way lol it doesn’t.. that’s why it’s bugged.

It depends entirely on the skill and weapon used. For instance a whirlwind bvc is getting way more average damage from a 20ed/8+min/6str jewel than a 20ed 6str jewel because 8min..which can be as high as 12 on a perf jewel will add more min damage than 20% of an eth naga’s base min damage.

Also for characters like smiters that wanna add more min charge damage to their scepter or flail builds will also see a benefit in using min/ed bugged jewels.. especially flail users with a min damage base of 1

You can check out my barb’s post, he’s got a min/ed dual stat ADOD that was pretty cool when barbs used shields 😂

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I’m pretty sure native ED mods never interfered with anything in that way but in general it works like this:
If I socket a 20ed 8min jewel into an armor piece... 20ed applies to my max range, 8min applies to my min range.

If you used a 20ed/8min/6str jewel in an armor piece for a barb, for instance... strength applies itself as 1ed per stat point so.. 20ed applies to my max/8 min to my min/ 6%ed to both min/max range.

Also, may not even be important in your case but the max/ed bug doesn’t seem to work for ranged attacks.. ie. A bowa could appreciate using 20ed/15max in a 3/80 armor and get a lot of GA/throw damage for what used to just be 3 cheap magic jewels.


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No.



I don’t play bowa I just listen to what the best ones say.
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Oct 10 2021 07:39pm
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I don’t play bowa I just listen to what the best ones say.



GA still gets ed’d bugged. However, you can jewel an armor w/ 20ed/12min/9dex jewels and get an insane increase to your min dmg.
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GA still gets ed’d bugged. However, you can jewel an armor w/ 20ed/12min/9dex jewels and get an insane increase to your min dmg.



This was a recent weird thing.. they tested shit bowas with 60ed/45 max armors vs 72max or 54/27 armors and they did VERY well for some stupid reason. Everyone just figured it didn’t work like it did for melee/charge/ww but who knows for sure. It is safe to just operate on what we know for sure though

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This was a recent weird thing.. they tested shit bowas with 60ed/45 max armors vs 72max or 54/27 armors and they did VERY well for some stupid reason. Everyone just figured it didn’t work like it did for melee/charge/ww but who knows for sure. It is safe to just operate on what we know for sure though



I tested it, and it does get bugged… but 20/12/9’s boost min dmg a lot… I’ll check if I still have the char
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I tested it, and it does get bugged… but 20/12/9’s boost min dmg a lot… I’ll check if I still have the char



Cool well I’ll relay the test info to said sources lol it would mean during their “testing”.. the 20ed15max user might have been using some kind of mod to get the average damage he had.. interesting nonetheless lol
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