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Jul 12 2021 12:41am
been a long time since i have delved into lld..
have a few decent items and have always been fond of the bone necro...
the wand i recently found has me contemplating it again..



wondering a few things..

first things first..
can i utilize a pride or other high lvl runeword at lvl 30?
or is iron golem only cast able on items with my available lvl range.
or will it cast and i just wont receive a bonus?

secondly...
if i was looking for rare jewels

what would be the max str/dex/res all i could get at lvl 30 or less req?
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Jul 12 2021 01:46am
You can cast iron golem from any item the level doesn't matter

I also wouldn't recommend doing this because the golem is going to get one shot and you're
going to have to constantly move items ect for the golem , its an extreme waste.

As far as rare jewels go a 9 dex with cold res jewel would be recommended for cold stack.
the wand isn't bad but you would want spirit over spear.

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Without a hard point in the skill the golem will despawn the next time you join a game
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Quote (cota @ Jul 12 2021 03:46am)
You can cast iron golem from any item the level doesn't matter

I also wouldn't recommend doing this because the golem is going to get one shot and you're
going to have to constantly move items ect for the golem , its an extreme waste.

As far as rare jewels go a 9 dex with cold res jewel would be recommended for cold stack.
the wand isn't bad but you would want spirit over spear.


true i prefer the spirits my self. but spirits are a slower frame rate are they not? ideal it would have both.. and 3 to iron..
not going to show up on any leader boards but im sure i can have a little fun.. obviously not gonna be using pride but that was a good example..

insights will be the most probable.. possibly even exile in a 45res base as the defiance is not limited to pally and c2c life tap.. or grief for the +hard damage..
not 100% what all attributes are actually passed on to IG. I just like the idea of having ig available with out burning any points.. it opens up a world of possibility's regardless of how short lived they may be.
hell even something with a die facet as an intentional land mine.. buy up junk eth zerkers and such and socket with a die facet.. so its kill it and get hit massive ele damage or get hit with non stop physical...

well its late and I am rambling. the main question was regarding lvl req and IG and i think that is covered..

the other question is regarding jewels..
I am kinda set on acquiring str/dex/res all rare jewel... i know the max possible without regard to lvl is 9str/9dex/10res all.. what is the max i can hope to see at lvl 30..

this is the right area to have this discussion correct?
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Jul 12 2021 04:07am
Also, in teams, there's usuly a hammerdin or libby to buff phys dam/have a chance for uninterrupted attacks.
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Quote (kregon420 @ Jul 12 2021 06:04am)
true i prefer the spirits my self. but spirits are a slower frame rate are they not? ideal it would have both.. and 3 to iron..
not going to show up on any leader boards but im sure i can have a little fun.. obviously not gonna be using pride but that was a good example..

insights will be the most probable.. possibly even exile in a 45res base as the defiance is not limited to pally and c2c life tap.. or grief for the +hard damage..
not 100% what all attributes are actually passed on to IG. I just like the idea of having ig available with out burning any points.. it opens up a world of possibility's regardless of how short lived they may be.
hell even something with a die facet as an intentional land mine.. buy up junk eth zerkers and such and socket with a die facet.. so its kill it and get hit massive ele damage or get hit with non stop physical...

well its late and I am rambling. the main question was regarding lvl req and IG and i think that is covered..

the other question is regarding jewels..
I am kinda set on acquiring str/dex/res all rare jewel... i know the max possible without regard to lvl is 9str/9dex/10res all.. what is the max i can hope to see at lvl 30..

this is the right area to have this discussion correct?



Again, you need a hard point in golem so +golem on wand does nothing

6 str/9 dex/10 res is perfect but not good to use 2x in a wand
If you use them in a wand you would lose that str/dex/res when you wsg. That forces you to use str/dex/res jewels on your weapon swap as well

Using 2x str jewels may also make it harder to str bug your stealth+boots

This post was edited by Doggyfood on Jul 12 2021 04:39am
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Again, you need a hard point in golem so +golem on wand does nothing

6 str/9 dex/10 res is perfect but not good to use 2x in a wand
If you use them in a wand you would lose that str/dex/res when you wsg. That forces you to use str/dex/res jewels on your weapon swap as well

Using 2x str jewels may also make it harder to str bug your stealth+boots

fantastic point on the str and switch.. and i understand no hardpoint = no golem on exit.
and to that point i am curious do i lose my ig if i have no ig on switch? (like the oak sage on hoto)

while i know some things are easy to find on the open net, picking the brain of ppl who have experimented in the realms of what you are attempting is always far greater return.
couldnt find the info on the IG ability in regards to lvl req of input. so i figured id ask about the jewel as well. i thought the 6str was max but after seeing 9dex i re-thought my stance.
this will be all completely self found so the jewel question was more of an optimal prospective not so much dedicated iso..

again should be sleeping.. sorry if this all seems noobish..
the last time i dueled not counting iron man was 2010 ish..
started a lvl 30 sin last ladder and never finished it.. but boner has always been my favorite for pvp, weather it be vlld/lld/mld/hld
so this one has peeked my interest.
a few well placed spirits or stacked spears and its lights out.. there is no real resist for magic, only dr..
The real reason for any summons with this build would be to stop the other player long enuff to get a name lock.. and any damage along the way is icing on the cake.
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Jul 12 2021 05:20am
Iron golem is not worth it and 5spirit 5spear base >
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Quote (kregon420 @ Jul 12 2021 12:04pm)
true i prefer the spirits my self. but spirits are a slower frame rate are they not? ideal it would have both.. and 3 to iron..
not going to show up on any leader boards but im sure i can have a little fun.. obviously not gonna be using pride but that was a good example..

insights will be the most probable.. possibly even exile in a 45res base as the defiance is not limited to pally and c2c life tap.. or grief for the +hard damage..
not 100% what all attributes are actually passed on to IG. I just like the idea of having ig available with out burning any points.. it opens up a world of possibility's regardless of how short lived they may be.
hell even something with a die facet as an intentional land mine.. buy up junk eth zerkers and such and socket with a die facet.. so its kill it and get hit massive ele damage or get hit with non stop physical...

well its late and I am rambling. the main question was regarding lvl req and IG and i think that is covered..

the other question is regarding jewels..
I am kinda set on acquiring str/dex/res all rare jewel... i know the max possible without regard to lvl is 9str/9dex/10res all.. what is the max i can hope to see at lvl 30..

this is the right area to have this discussion correct?


In all honesty, iron goelm makes more sense on a pure summoner that can teleport on swap. The skeletons will help keep your goelm alive, and then your skellies can benefit from cool auras
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Quote (lld_mayhem @ Jul 12 2021 07:20am)
In all honesty, iron goelm makes more sense on a pure summoner that can teleport on swap. The skeletons will help keep your goelm alive, and then your skellies can benefit from cool auras


Only on hardcore and only because a 6 cold faceted golem will one-shot most llds on death

Clay golem is just as good on softcore
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