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What would you Math guys think about...

a Superior (15/3) 5 Socket Short Siege Bow...

Rune & Jeweled with...

3x Sheal ( 60% IAS )
1x Nef ( Knockback )
1x 20% Enhanced Damage 8-18 Jewel

On Bow Stats would be...

25-58 Damage on Bow
60% IAS
Knockback


This post was edited by RPG5621 on Jan 22 2021 10:24am
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Ditch the fire dmg gear altogether, open up your wallet and get a pair of 4-30-kb ceres. swap to kb, u should be doing that regardless most matchups to reapply poi whenever u can.

sshroud > peace imo, 1 skill vs the mdr and cbf in all setups.

bow should honestly be like an up'd rogues bow as you lose pts to crit from pumping poi.

dont like sigons at all, 1 skill for horrid block rate, rare replife >, or even rhyme.

honestly seems like u picket up the gauntlets first, which are fuuuu base, and then made it work with 65 str gear.

but your GA dmg is low + mdr bug. just use p crown and save swapping james' old circ
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Ditch the fire dmg gear altogether, open up your wallet and get a pair of 4-30-kb ceres. swap to kb, u should be doing that regardless most matchups to reapply poi whenever u can.

sshroud > peace imo, 1 skill vs the mdr and cbf in all setups.

bow should honestly be like an up'd rogues bow as you lose pts to crit from pumping poi.

dont like sigons at all, 1 skill for horrid block rate, rare replife >, or even rhyme.

honestly seems like u picket up the gauntlets first, which are fuuuu base, and then made it work with 65 str gear.

but your GA dmg is low + mdr bug. just use p crown and save swapping james' old circ



With poison javs I don't try to hit them rather than throw in front of them for a longer poison cloud... and im not to concerned about mdr since this is not a raw dmg build.

I find Peace>sshroud... Id be over GM 30 Life rep cap with it and not having the cnbf isnt the best... but there are not many cold chars these days and i have hfd on boots. and i get +1 all skills more PLUS a +1 into javs since i dont need to hardskill crit strike. the other percs of peace im not going to complain about either... it was pretty much made for this build.

i cant bug rouges making it a no go... goal is to run free naked ( I like chargers not knowing if there about to charge a psn jav or a ga... Like to keep them guessing )... SSB it is best option for this build ( i have at least 15+ better bows sadly none can be glitched).

Sigons is a love/hate shield with +1 passives, +1 psn javs, gg block & fits perfectly into this bugged gear theme i have going on... Only other option would be a Barbed shield... but nn more life rep.

60 Strength guants work for this build ( nough said )

ga dmg is low because mb vita/1 pt ga/not a bowa. Circlet is gg for this build ( i like mana )




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With poison javs I don't try to hit them rather than throw in front of them for a longer poison cloud... and im not to concerned about mdr since this is not a raw dmg build.

I find Peace>sshroud... Id be over GM 30 Life rep cap with it and not having the cnbf isnt the best... but there are not many cold chars these days and i have hfd on boots. and i get +1 all skills more PLUS a +1 into javs since i dont need to hardskill crit strike. the other percs of peace im not going to complain about either... it was pretty much made for this build.

i cant bug rouges making it a no go... goal is to run free naked ( I like chargers not knowing if there about to charge a psn jav or a ga... Like to keep them guessing )... SSB it is best option for this build ( i have at least 15+ better bows sadly none can be glitched).

Sigons is a love/hate shield with +1 passives, +1 psn javs, gg block & fits perfectly into this bugged gear theme i have going on... Only other option would be a Barbed shield... but nn more life rep.

60 Strength guants work for this build ( nough said )

ga dmg is low because mb vita/1 pt ga/not a bowa. Circlet is gg for this build ( i like mana )


if you want math here's all u need to hear.

currently you do like 75 dmg min hit on ga, after pvp that's 12, after MDR bug that's zero vs just string OR magi.

you're using bow to last hit with a build that can be MDR bug'd into zero damage on min hits. in fact even a 170 dmg hit on ur build can be MDR bug'd to zero.

525 high end, 170 and below do nothing vs magi/string, so 32% of your damage doesnt even last hit.

all off the cuff math but yes, mdr bug really is that bad.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 22 2021 10:59am
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 22 2021 11:59am)
if you want math here's all u need to hear.

currently you do like 75 dmg min hit on ga, after pvp that's 12, after MDR bug that's zero.

you're using bow to last hit with a build that can be MDR bug'd into zero damage on min hits. in fact even a 170 dmg hit on ur build can be MDR bug'd to zero.

525 high end, 170 and below do nothing vs magi/string, so 32% of your damage doesnt even last hit.

all off the cuff math but yes, mdr bug really is that bad.


and yet... not a bowa :huh:
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and yet... not a bowa :huh:


i realize u cant do math, but reading score of 12 on the ACT means u need community college.

u use the bow to get last hit, aka 1 hp left. 32% of your arrows wont kill a 1 hp string/magi OR sshroud user.

that's one third of your GAs lol.
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i realize u cant do math, but reading score of 12 on the ACT means u need community college.

u use the bow to get last hit, aka 1 hp left. 32% of your arrows wont kill a 1 hp string/magi OR sshroud user.

that's one third of your GAs lol.


This is the actual "Math Question"...

What would you Math guys think about...

a Superior (15/3) 5 Socket Short Siege Bow...

Rune & Jeweled with...

3x Sheal ( 60% IAS )
1x Nef ( Knockback )
1x 20% Enhanced Damage 8-18 Jewel

On Bow Stats would be...

25-58 Damage on Bow
60% IAS
Knockback
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Quote (RPG5621 @ Jan 22 2021 11:02am)
This is the actual "Math Question"...

What would you Math guys think about...

a Superior (15/3) 5 Socket Short Siege Bow...

Rune & Jeweled with...

3x Sheal ( 60% IAS )
1x Nef ( Knockback )
1x 20% Enhanced Damage 8-18 Jewel

On Bow Stats would be...

25-58 Damage on Bow
60% IAS
Knockback


just use a 5 shael short sieged, and use the savings from the 20-8-18 that would be gross in that bow to buy 4-30-kb javs. youll get 8 fpa ga

currently a throw hit doesnt do any dmg on the low end either lol.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 22 2021 11:06am
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 22 2021 12:06pm)
just use a 5 shael short sieged, and use the savings from the 20-8-18 that would be gross in that bow to buy 4-30-kb javs. youll get 8 fpa ga

currently a throw hit doesnt do any dmg on the low end either lol.


kb on javs only procs if you hit them... 90% of javs a true skill psn zon player throws are not directed at them but next to them for long poison clouds...as said before...

5x sheal bow vs 3 sheal + kb id prefer the kb to lock up a player in tvt
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Jan 22 2021 11:13am
Sounds like you have all the answers so why bother asking questions
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