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Dec 12 2020 06:35pm
I have been thinking about creating a ranking-per-battle system for a fair 1vs1 tourney or ladder. The way I have done it is by making each win worth anywhere between 0.25 pts to 2.00 points depending on matchup. I think if we can agree on a balanced points setup this could lead to a fair 1vs1 tourney someday.

I only thought of it 15 mins ago, and I made this short list only showing off pure HDIN points to see if anyone thinks it’d be worth continuing or if it’s just a waste of time... also if anyone would like to contribute 🤤

Remember: every single thing is up for debate. The build types, the breakpoint amounts, the win:loss ratio etc. This is only a template to see if it would be worth exploring for any future tourney/ladder.

So far I have been going off of these rules:
Lowest points per duel: 0.25
Highest points per duel: 2.00
Minimum 0.25 point value increases

Build types:
Din- hdin, libby, all charge variants, vt, melee
Barb- ww, brawler, melee
Druid- nado, fissure, melee
Sorc- blizz, lightning, fb, fw
Sin- ls, wof, melee
Nec- boner
Zon- bow, psn, hyb, cs

So for example I will list pure hdin vs all build points. Obviously it would take a bit of time to list out all builds vs all builds points, but it wouldn’t take that long especially with community input and it could lay the framework for some very successful tourneys in the future! Questions being: is it worth it? What other builds to add? How to adjust point amounts because mine aren’t absolute? Lmk
Here are pure hdin vs all totals that I have originally listed. This is definitely just an example as I have never even played hdin:

PURE HDIN Points per duel
Vs hdin 1.00
Vs libby 1.25
Vs charge variants 1.00
Vs vt 0.25
Vs melee 0.25

Vs ww 0.75
Vs brawler 0.75
Vs melee barb 0.25

Vs windy 0.75
Vs fissure 0.75
Vs melee 0.25

Vs blizz 0.75
Vs lightning 1.00
Vs fb 1.5
Vs fw 1.5

Vs ls trap 1.75
Vs wof trap 1.25
Vs melee 0.25

Vs bone necro 0.75-1.00??

Vs pure bow 1.75
Vs pure psn 1.00
Vs hyb bow/psn 2.00
Vs cs 0.25



Okay so as I stated these points are just rough beginning numbers, but what do people think of the concept? Is it worth doing the numbers for the rest of the chars?

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Dec 12 2020 06:38pm
Voted no
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Dec 12 2020 06:40pm
Quote (Haseo @ 12 Dec 2020 17:38)
Voted no


That’s a good start tbh :thumbsup:
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Dec 12 2020 07:50pm
Quote (Haseo @ Dec 12 2020 06:38pm)
Voted no


You've activated my trap card!

I vote yes, effectively canceling your vote. Hahaha, you are no match for the heart of the cards!
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Dec 12 2020 07:51pm
Quote (iron_minotaur @ Dec 12 2020 07:50pm)
You've activated my trap card!

I vote yes, effectively canceling your vote. Hahaha, you are no match for the heart of the cards!


Nice try but i activate some bullshit!



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Quote (iron_minotaur @ 12 Dec 2020 18:50)
You've activated my trap card!

I vote yes, effectively canceling your vote. Hahaha, you are no match for the heart of the cards!



Back at net-zero tyvm!!!

I actually think nothing would ever come of it, definitely no tourney or ladder from me at least. Was just wondering if anyone who has the heart/determination to actually run a tourney would be interested in having a dataset like this 🤷‍♂️
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Dec 12 2020 10:16pm
You would also have to show the inverse

Like what happens if a zon beats a hdin 5-1? How many does the zon get for those 5 wins?
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Dec 12 2020 10:22pm
Quote (IAmAsylum @ Dec 12 2020 08:16pm)
You would also have to show the inverse

Like what happens if a zon beats a hdin 5-1? How many does the zon get for those 5 wins?



Sounds like to much effort for something that will

1. Die
2. Everyone start complaining about you and your rules lel
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Dec 12 2020 10:31pm
Quote (IAmAsylum @ 12 Dec 2020 21:16)
You would also have to show the inverse

Like what happens if a zon beats a hdin 5-1? How many does the zon get for those 5 wins?


yeah it would get to that when it got down to the zon part haha, as I said I only listed matchups for pure hdin just to see what people thought of it before I went and typed out everything for all chars. But yeah inverse has to be implied during this stage since it hasn't been all written out yet haha

And also yeah, don't think it would be a super successful ladder or tourney, just thought it was a good idea rather than straight out banning some char types just make their wins weighted. Would have been cool for 2008
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Dec 12 2020 10:35pm
Kyushu is already typing a 20 page rage essay about this idea
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