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Mar 24 2020 10:26am
is it better to make it pure physical hammer 105fcr

or

is it better to make hybrid? 65fcr physical hammer 1 side, kick the other?

Just wanting to know so i know what invent/items i need and too lazy to test.

cheers.
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Mar 24 2020 10:29am
Quote (chum @ Mar 24 2020 05:26pm)
is it better to make it pure physical hammer 105fcr

or

is it better to make hybrid? 65fcr physical hammer 1 side, kick the other?

Just wanting to know so i know what invent/items i need and too lazy to test.

cheers.


if i would make a hybrid i think i'd make a ph / bfsin instead of ph / kick. I prefer that combo from what i've seen.

I'd only make a hybrid if i had a sick bf weapon tho so i didn't have to invest any more in it, so the weapon is enough for bf on it's own. And have a pure ph setup in stash vs some mu's.

If i didn't have a weapon like that i'd make a pure phsin instead.
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Mar 24 2020 10:31am
Quote (Skullflower @ Mar 24 2020 04:29pm)
if i would make a hybrid i think i'd make a ph / bfsin instead of ph / kick. I prefer that combo from what i've seen.

I'd only make a hybrid if i had a sick bf weapon tho so i didn't have to invest any more in it, so the weapon is enough for bf on it's own. And have a pure ph setup in stash vs some mu's.

If i didn't have a weapon like that i'd make a pure phsin instead.


i see, t4 feedback seb. bf sin is probably the only char i have never made in my years of d2, completely clueless on this so ill have to read some.

also i wanted something that i can use vs pala when half life or so, using bf always seems shit as it fires 1 and then gets stopped (when sin gets hit by something) ^^


my thoughts were pure physcial hammer, or some cb/ele kick + phy hammer. Guess it sux though

This post was edited by chum on Mar 24 2020 10:33am
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Mar 24 2020 11:11am
why not 102 fcr hammer with kick side?

you wont really use kick much in my experience

102 fcr does feel OP until you run against someone with mass dr/mdr
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Mar 24 2020 11:14am
honestly even if kick was far better i'd lean the BF route, because kickers are fairly boring to play in my experience. just click and hold to run after them, boring for both sides. even if u mix in PH to break up the duel.

and BF has a few matchups where someone on top of you is a really bad thing, charger/zealer or even a bowa jabbing to keep you on block lock. so adding in PH to be used defensively seems good.

ive played many BF sins, 18 and 30, and really enjoyed the playstyle.
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Mar 24 2020 11:24am
Ty for feedback guys
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Mar 24 2020 11:36am
I've tried BF/PH but Brian told me no

BF damage is super low unless you sacrifice alot of mana from charms then PH has low AF mana and you'll lean hard on BF



if you go BF you need to go 65% fcr and not 102% fcr since you need maxer armor
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Mar 24 2020 11:54am
Quote (IAmAsylum @ Mar 24 2020 05:36pm)
I've tried BF/PH but Brian told me no

BF damage is super low unless you sacrifice alot of mana from charms then PH has low AF mana and you'll lean hard on BF



if you go BF you need to go 65% fcr and not 102% fcr since you need maxer armor


I see. To be honest after reading all of the comments. I'm leaning towards 105fcr pure or 65fcr with some small kick dmg on switch probably crushflange
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Mar 24 2020 11:58am
Ok so do you want to be incredibly annoying or only above average annoying? That answers your fcr question.

As for kick ph or ph bf, ph kick is a nightmare to balance mana, fcr and damage. Me and sase tried it together using some trophy gear and prepatch stuff and it kinda worked but was notably worse than both a pure ph sin and a pure kicker.

Also ph bf needs a crazy claw to be worth it.

This post was edited by LaochraGael on Mar 24 2020 12:00pm
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Quote (LaochraGael @ Mar 24 2020 06:58pm)
Ok so do you want to be incredibly annoying or only above average annoying? That answers your fcr question.

As for kick ph or ph bf, ph kick is a nightmare to balance mana, fcr and damage. Me and sase tried it together using some trophy gear and prepatch stuff and it kinda worked but was notably worse than both a pure ph sin and a pure kicker.

Also ph bf needs a crazy claw to be worth it.


I was going to write a wall of text here but... This^ T/c

Also, I am the #1 bfury player, and no one can touch me.

This post was edited by TShaman on Mar 24 2020 12:05pm
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