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Dec 18 2019 10:44pm
i like pure chargers, i mostly do LLD but lets set that aside

a chargers 2 biggest foes are max block and ww

WW- i have no answer for, intuition and good timing have only gotten me so far . even if i live though the WW theres no way to hit a WW'ing barb youre knowledge will be loved

max block- i seem to have endless questions here

-im told that ias can help bypass block chance via braking the block rate but have found nothing to support this if any 1 has knowledge on that

-chargers knock back can be blocked, but some times it is not. The dmg is still blocked but they get knocked back i have a friend help me play with specs on that but idk what the diff was, ive used max ar lvl 31 (19k AR) charger vs max block barb (about 1200 deff) to eliminate hit chance (95%chance to hit b4 block stc..) and had ruffly the same
knock back ratio then. ive also been able to push back high lvls with back block with ease (not controlled test) so idk what the factor im missing is

-is there any desync factors that effect hit chance good or bad

-and not factoring the desync facter (witch i dont like doing seems unfair) is there any pros to using vigor over another aura (fantasim for the ias, might for more dmg?)

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Dec 18 2019 11:16pm
You’ll always die to barb

You have 25% chance to hit someone w/ max block

Zeal helps get extra hits in after charge.
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Dec 18 2019 11:36pm
Hit people while they are running for better cth. Get in and out quickly, don’t commit to holding a namelock - live to charge again.
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Dec 19 2019 12:22am
Quote (gloverdoom @ Dec 19 2019 05:44am)
i like pure chargers, i mostly do LLD but lets set that aside

a chargers 2 biggest foes are max block and ww

WW- i have no answer for, intuition and good timing have only gotten me so far . even if i live though the WW theres no way to hit a WW'ing barb youre knowledge will be loved

max block- i seem to have endless questions here

-im told that ias can help bypass block chance via braking the block rate but have found nothing to support this if any 1 has knowledge on that

-chargers knock back can be blocked, but some times it is not. The dmg is still blocked but they get knocked back i have a friend help me play with specs on that but idk what the diff was, ive used max ar lvl 31 (19k AR) charger vs max block barb (about 1200 deff) to eliminate hit chance (95%chance to hit b4 block stc..) and had ruffly the same
knock back ratio then. ive also been able to push back high lvls with back block with ease (not controlled test) so idk what the factor im missing is

-is there any desync factors that effect hit chance good or bad

-and not factoring the desync facter (witch i dont like doing seems unfair) is there any pros to using vigor over another aura (fantasim for the ias, might for more dmg?)


You'll just have to live with the fact that you can 1 hit ko every other build with your eyes closed.

This post was edited by lld_mayhem on Dec 19 2019 12:22am
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Dec 19 2019 05:00am
Up charge when possible. I and most others will agree up charging has best results for landing hits. Also vigor is unnecessary for desyncing but helps ofc. Where vigor really helps is to disengage quickly. For example another charge/zealot is on the other team and charges you right after you charged someone else. Vigor swap could save you. Or out running arrows. Things like that.
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Dec 19 2019 05:03am
Quote (JonBmx @ Dec 19 2019 12:00pm)
Up charge when possible. I and most others will agree up charging has best results for landing hits. Also vigor is unnecessary for desyncing but helps ofc. Where vigor really helps is to disengage quickly. For example another charge/zealot is on the other team and charges you right after you charged someone else. Vigor swap could save you. Or out running arrows. Things like that.


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Dec 19 2019 06:31am
Smite helps vs ww barb but you have to build for it and give up the ability to 1 hit ko every build

Also you still won’t win vs ww barb 1v1 unless they are terrible

Vs block, just keep rolling the rng dice. Hit, charge away, rinse and repeat.

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Quote (IAmAsylum @ Dec 19 2019 07:31am)
Smite helps vs ww barb but you have to build for it and give up the ability to 1 hit ko every build

Also you still won’t win vs ww barb 1v1 unless they are terrible

Vs block, just keep rolling the rng dice. Hit, charge away, rinse and repeat.

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Dec 19 2019 02:40pm
when running block chance drops to 25% from 75%. and charging counts as running. so catch people on the run, and zeal them to force them to run.

as to wws, build holy shock with FoH swap and they're easy. take forever, but easy.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 19 2019 02:40pm)
when running block chance drops to 25% from 75%. and charging counts as running. so catch people on the run, and zeal them to force them to run.

as to wws, build holy shock with FoH swap and they're easy. take forever, but easy.



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