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Jul 10 2019 01:08pm
So I gambled a shield with every Mod you want on it except for 17/30/20. Wondering if 30/20 is actually required? If your still at max block is the 30/20 still beneficial? Does 30/20 just get you to max block with less Dex needed? If so this shield could be used on a zon that is all Dex anyway??
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Jul 10 2019 01:11pm
Less dex required= more life so yes, 30/20 is a staple on everything besides pally shields
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Jul 10 2019 02:10pm
Quote (JonBmx @ 10 Jul 2019 13:11)
Less dex required= more life so yes, 30/20 is a staple on everything besides pally shields


That's why I said use it on a pure Dex zon, you will still be max block without it.
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Jul 10 2019 02:23pm
I guess I figured no one did that anymore cuz they realized it was a bad build. :(
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Jul 10 2019 02:33pm
Quote (JonBmx @ Jul 10 2019 03:23pm)
I guess I figured no one did that anymore cuz they realized it was a bad build. :(


pure dex zon is prob how 90% of easts zons are built :P

Tardy is/was last i spec'd her.

when i mained zon i prefered a 1kish life 11 fpa setup with string/bfists. but i also lag on my shit internet and always went with higher mana efficiency builds.


as to the shield, the only reason i'd ditch 30-20 would be for a 17fhr/3 os kite on a zon, OR a eth/rep grim shield on a pally since they hit MB w/ holy shield anyways.

as they say: these shield are made for blocking, and 3/4 the time that's what they do. one of the days you'll get caught walking and your block will turn to poo.
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Jul 10 2019 02:45pm
Doesn’t the 30fbr help animation though? Also what mods are on it?
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Jul 10 2019 03:07pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ Jul 10 2019 03:45pm)
Doesn’t the 30fbr help animation though? Also what mods are on it?


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FASTER BLOCK RATE

Amazon *) hit by a 1-handed weapon or 2-handed sword held in one hand
FBR Frames
0% 17
4% 16
6% 15
11% 14
15% 13
23% 12
29% 11
40% 10
56% 9
80% 8
120% 7
200% 6
480% 5

Amazon **) hit by any other weapon
FBR Frames
0% 5
13% 4
32% 3
86% 2
600% 1


pally has auto 2 frame blocking. zon uses wsg :)

FBR is generally only relevant on a char that would use a Whitstans to get GG blockrate. anything else is going to WSG or is a pally. or a sorc that will tele out or w/e. FBR is about not getting kited rly imo
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Jul 10 2019 03:25pm
fbr definitely help on bowazon block side
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Jul 10 2019 03:29pm
Quote (GuyLadouche @ Jul 10 2019 04:25pm)
fbr definitely help on bowazon block side


100% need a block shield vs builds like WW barb.

difference between 17 frame and 11 frame block is noteable and WSG isn't an option.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 10 2019 05:29pm)
100% need a block shield vs builds like WW barb.

difference between 17 frame and 11 frame block is noteable and WSG isn't an option.


Idk I am basing my opinion off that last time I built a high lvl bowa and going glass cannon was never worth it. My only current one is an 18 and that too is vita
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