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May 26 2018 10:03am
Quick question - are there any bowazons in lld, and what would they look for on a bow?
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May 26 2018 10:36am
Yes and

20ias base
Ed obviously
Amp is good

No ele damage on it
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May 26 2018 10:37pm
They look for 5 socket ashwood bows with +3skill/15% superior ed and then they put jewels and runes in the bow
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May 27 2018 10:34am
Rune dart!

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just upgrade a rogue's bow

don't spend a lot on a char until you know you're going to enjoy it
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May 31 2018 01:09am
Quote (Worrywart @ May 27 2018 07:37pm)
just upgrade a rogue's bow

don't spend a lot on a char until you know you're going to enjoy it


i guess like this :)
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May 31 2018 06:58am
what's a robo cost nowadays
it's either really low or really high
prices make no sense
esp for lld stuff
ck boots cost like hundreds upon hundreds of fg sometimes close to 500 or more like wtf? do they not drop anymore?

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Quote (DCSS @ May 31 2018 06:58am)
what's a robo cost nowadays
it's either really low or really high
prices make no sense
esp for lld stuff
ck boots cost like hundreds upon hundreds of fg sometimes close to 500 or more like wtf? do they not drop anymore?


when i PC i consider the robo to be the cost of the jewels x .5 to .75 depending on the jewels. if they are basic 24 maxers its closer to .5 or lower, high quality unduped rares closer to .75

the base, the shael, and the ever elusive "these jewels took me forever to find on ladder" costs don't factor in once it rolls to NL, and pc'ing on ladder is a fools errand.

i prefer a robo setup with bfists/SoE, which i believe leaves you with 2-3 shaels depending on whether u want 10 or 11 fpa. I've never had a godly rare circ with base mana, so i prefer a slower fpa and the DR/Fhr/Life
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May 31 2018 07:25am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 31 2018 09:12am)
when i PC i consider the robo to be the cost of the jewels x .5 to .75 depending on the jewels. if they are basic 24 maxers its closer to .5 or lower, high quality unduped rares closer to .75

the base, the shael, and the ever elusive "these jewels took me forever to find on ladder" costs don't factor in once it rolls to NL, and pc'ing on ladder is a fools errand.

i prefer a robo setup with bfists/SoE, which i believe leaves you with 2-3 shaels depending on whether u want 10 or 11 fpa. I've never had a godly rare circ with base mana, so i prefer a slower fpa and the DR/Fhr/Life


Who in the right mind would make a robo from 24 max damage jewels??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????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May 31 2018 08:04am
Quote (QueeF @ May 31 2018 07:25am)
Who in the right mind would make a robo from 24 max damage jewels?????(SILLY AMOUNT OF QUESTION MARKS REDACTED)


Well historically rare jewels have been scant, so much so that even finding 3 complimentary jewels for a robo was hard. so people chose to put the more expensive jewels into something like a lifer plate or akod. the logic checks out. a Robo is a white item with 2-4 shael runes, which devalues the jewels more than a lifer plate filled with all high quality jewels. so people would 24 max or 20-15 a robo, which is actually closer in dmg than you might expect on the output.

today it seems people can get a duped jewel with ed/max/dex/reqs/res/etc for the same price that a 24 maxer used to cost. pre-mass bots 24 maxers were like mid range currency, plain 15 lifers were even still in use on NL on many chars. I used to sell sets of 40x when ladder rerolled with ease.

it was common for a time, iirc, for 4 shael robos for 8/9fpa setups. i always hated them, but some people really preferred them. Imagine filling the last slot with a 500 fg rare jewel, some people did. always seemed like a waste to me unless you need the reqs. rare bows were essentially non-existent and almost none were up to a robo's dmg output, unless u had a PP bow like runedart, which at the time was considered BM in zvz circles.

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