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Hi all

I'm new and had some non cookie cuter builds ideas but I see I'm not allowed to build summoner's or use charges. Why is this ?

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because for Blizzard, pvp has never been an important asset to the game, so they didnt care about pvp balancing. hence the players themselves have estsblished some rules to make many classes/builds viable
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Quote (PiXi31415 @ 1 Sep 2024 12:14)
because for Blizzard, pvp has never been an important asset to the game, so they didnt care about pvp balancing. hence the players themselves have estsblished some rules to make many classes/builds viable


+1 right
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Quote (PiXi31415 @ Sep 1 2024 03:14am)
because for Blizzard, pvp has never been an important asset to the game, so they didnt care about pvp balancing. hence the players themselves have estsblished some rules to make many classes/builds viable


I get that its just how are summoners and skill charges op in pvp >_<

Thes builds would get ownd but thay seam to have best chance !?

dru https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/smad03xd
nec https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/m8bi0990

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Quote (kenwas @ Sep 4 2024 06:18pm)
I get that its just how are summoners and skill charges op in pvp >_<

Thes builds would get ownd but thay seam to have best chance !?

dru https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/smad03xd
nec https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/m8bi0990


Its definitely outside the box builds that I have theroy these over several years ago. Any criticism or thoughts that are not flaming ?
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Quote (kenwas @ Sep 4 2024 08:18pm)
I get that its just how are summoners and skill charges op in pvp >_<

Thes builds would get ownd but thay seam to have best chance !?

dru https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/smad03xd
nec https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/m8bi0990


summoner druids arent typically op or BM.

summoner necs have been banned because no one wants to take a 5 min break inbetween duels to wait for someone to go over to cold plains and resummon an army.

skill charges is an odd one, tele charges are ofc allowed, but every other skill charge i can think of is underwhelming for sure. so much so they're useless.

the only things i can think of that aren't useless are frost nova charges, which arent op but might be viable on like a bowa or charger.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 6 2024 10:17am)
the only things i can think of that aren't useless are frost nova charges, which arent op but might be viable on like a bowa or charger.


I agree as vs a summoner that would own also.

I understand now about necro summoner as I see its usually best of; 3 or 5. Maybe they should put the rule that necro can only cast his corps skills one time and never recast :) or a time limit like 15 sec
I don't even know if players are allowed to swop gear around after round 1 !?

But why so many restrictions about how the druid summoner uses his summons ? May be I seen this info on hld and not lld. I do know a tely stomp is op for most builds.



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I agree as vs a summoner that would own also.

I understand now about necro summoner as I see its usually best of; 3 or 5. Maybe they should put the rule that necro can only cast his corps skills one time and never recast :) or a time limit like 15 sec
I don't even know if players are allowed to swop gear around after round 1 !?

But why so many restrictions about how the druid summoner uses his summons ? May be I seen this info on hld and not lld. I do know a tely stomp is op for most builds.


PS I may have misunderstood the DFC rules !? I don't see anything about charge skills now. And it sounds like you just cant us corps' during fight. I don't know if necro summons are considered pre buffing.

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PS I may have misunderstood the DFC rules !? I don't see anything about charge skills now. And it sounds like you just cant us corps' during fight. I don't know if necro summons are considered pre buffing.


Necro summoners are usually considered bm just because of the time it takes them to prep for each duel. It’s a bit disrespectful to your opponent to make them wait that long in between each duel. People generally like “go” “go” *someone dies* “gd” “gd” and then “go” again within 10 seconds
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Quote (kenwas @ Sep 6 2024 07:12pm)
I agree as vs a summoner that would own also.

I understand now about necro summoner as I see its usually best of; 3 or 5. Maybe they should put the rule that necro can only cast his corps skills one time and never recast :) or a time limit like 15 sec
I don't even know if players are allowed to swop gear around after round 1 !?

But why so many restrictions about how the druid summoner uses his summons ? May be I seen this info on hld and not lld. I do know a tely stomp is op for most builds.


all necro summons would die to 1 hammer lol.
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