The rules changed all the time because the rule setter nerfed the builds the wrong way, its like blizzard senior dev 2.0.
What are we looking for? we are looking for a balanced game play, no overly defensive sorc.

We look into the advantages of es and vita sorc now, i write down my thoughts now, will post dmg life/mana numbers later with screenshots.

when a player has to decide es or vita, he will allways go es because rules for es and vita are the same but the es has a crazy advantage.
Es plays more devensive because of the high mana pool and the ability to reg/rep.
Vita sorc has to deal its dmg in a certain time frame or you end up with an empty mana pool ( average duell lenght for me on vita ~ 30 seconds )
Energyshield
Es sorc have the ability to teleport away and regenerate mana on an hilarious rate, especially with my new build. ( will lead to overly defensive gameplay )
Es sorc are allowed to have 10 repl life. --> this will lead to overly defensive gameplay
Es sorcs are allowed to use RBFC. --> whenever the sorc is done regenerating/replenishing she is ready to come back and hit you with a hilarious ammount of dmg.
Es sorc is allowed to use Thundergods vs assa --> my new build just tank assasin while using tg.
Es sorc is the superior class and needs regulation

conclusion for tactics as es sorc: you have every opportunity to play defensive or offensive, whatever you want to. once you are down with mana, teleport away to regain a huge mana shield in no time.

Vita sorc

High dmg, low mana, less survivability, you want to end your duell in time. you have no mana shield, you NEED to play offensive and end the duell as fast as possible.
in comparison with the es, once the vita's life is down, you are screwed, you cannot reg/rep so you gotta go all in.
This is what we want, we want agressive sorcs and not hours of duells.
so, for a new player, who had to decide which class to play, it appears that an es sorc has an overall advantage.
Havnt seen a vita competetive since Lod when arne ( alongcomesmarry ) was playing. lets not screw the sorc class up.

summary

There is no reason to play vita sorc when the rules do not change, lets do some diversity here to make as much builds available as possible for the player base and to make good rules is no rocket since

es sorc shall not be allowed to use replenish life. --> free ticket to play slow with an overall advantage vs your opponent.
es sorc shall not be allowed to use rbfc --> high dmg should only be available for the Vita class
Vita sorc --> can use rbfc
Lets start with an example vs Bowa

Es vs bowa: es Sorc teleports from far away to you, stomp you, shoot you 2-3 times, teleport away, if sorc gets hit, reg/replenish kicks in --> repeat win 5-0
Vita vs bowa: you die from 3 guided arrows, so you better end your duell fast, the initial telestomp is difficult, you need to be fast and stomp on point on the ama, not on valkyrie etc..
you have no ressource to teleport away once you get hit because the ama do not have to move at all, just stay and shoot since the fhr nerf in 2.4
that said, we want extreme high dmg to telestomp the bowa and end the duell in 20 seconds ( in case ama is not moving, thats how amas play vs sorc after 2.4 )
Give the vita the ability to make the amazon fucking move and not stomp the sorc lol. --> that said, allow rbfc on vita to make this class playable. do not allow rbfc on es beacause the es has other tools to win the duell.[/QUOTE]



ES
Standard lidless mb no rbfc is the standard build, i did the calculation what will happen if there is a rule change related to the use of lidless wall and rbfc.
The stats itself of the Standard lidless mb no rbfc is concerning, whats even more concerning is the stats of the Sorc whwn we are allowed to use Whitstans.
The Fact that the sorc can shoot 3,13 fists of mike tyson from a safe position in a second is pretty concerning for me.

Vita
The actual rule set is pretty bad for vita, even if its the weaker overall char, the only tool we have, is the dmg.


How should we balance this, to make vita sorc playable and to nerf the stats of the es.

I demand:



I understand that you do not want the player make to read 129381293 different rules for differen classes, i got you bro.

Rule could be:

Es sorc must use lidless ( including blizzard/light sorc )
Es sorc may not use RBFC ( including blizzard/ light sorc )
Insight tvt only--> vita has dmg advantage, we want this sorc to be agressive and not regenerating mana.

This post was edited by Octogenarian on Aug 17 2023 03:00am

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Agressiv sorc Sounds good

Yeah

Tl;dr

So that is why you wanted to play esmb with lidless, to balance things out a bit more ?

well done boy

i like when people say "oh 18v18 thats the bracket that only works because u nerf or ban chargers", meanwhile 30 or 49 only works because we dont let sorcs use insight.

thanks for coming to my tedtalk.

they tried to nerf sorcs by change the max block rule to --> can only use lidless.

made a new build that has better stats with lidless as mb base.

They could have avoided any of this bull shit that happend by asking a long time sorc player lol.
Atleast some 1 quit because of this stupid rule changes for sorc and i have bought the top mld circlet. ( not lidless change but synergies rule on blizzard LOL hilarious )
So atleast one positive aspect the incompetetive rules brings.

Pretty sure they will not even read inside the essay i wrote, yes its long, but it describe perfect.

can go in detail vs every other char class but they dont bother reading, i dont bother writing.

This post was edited by Octogenarian on Aug 18 2023 10:14am

when d2r came out and i saw the complete idiots (not ferdia) trying to make rules i knew it wasnt going to end well. good on u for trying buddy

i played d4 alot from the beginning, nearly 24/7. ( not playing anymore, its fun 300 hours but thats it. )

When the devs tried to nerf things, they even made it worse. like in mld atm.
There was a video published of devs playing d4 while giving an interview. holy fuck, this degenerated they/them's played in the lowest difficutly with a controller. 10 seconds of this video were enough to tell, that those people shouldnt be in charge of any rule/nerfs

This post was edited by Octogenarian on Aug 18 2023 10:30am

yup i saw that, they dont even know how to play their own game. i had high hopes for d4, but atm im not playing it. i decided to quit games for a month and renovate a room in my house instead, might play wow classic hardcore tho.

good choice.