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Introduction


Since 15 years, the build for es fb did not change at all. My new build is a revolution that gives you the ability to have the highest stats in 1vs1 also in tvt.
You are able to use thundergods in tvt with maxblock. Later in this guide I will refer to expensive and cheap items and split both categories in 2 parts. Colored red is expensive, blue is cheap.The next part is a comparison with the old build


The first post is the basic build, cheap items with no further explanation. skip to post 2 if you want to go advanced.

According to maxroll, with the old es fb max block build with best possible items, stats are as follows: ( has no opportunity to equip thundergods without ripping apart the whole inventory )

Life 907
Mana 2230
Mana Regeneration 68.3
maxblock
fb dmg: 7521-8167
fcr 105
fhr 86

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/1w0106yx build from ferdia maxroll
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=38488022&f=143 build from ferdia on jsp

According to maxroll, with the new es fb build with best possible items with max block, stats are as follows ( also has the opportunity to equip thundergods with no effort with little adjustments )

Life 1044
Mana 2440
Mana Regeneration 69.6
maxblock
fb dmg tel: 7537-8203
fcr 105
fhr 86

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/n4010ohb


Pro


Overall better stats than the old build.
You can adept your stats to whatever your playstyle is by changing inventory, switch skillers with 20/17's because the orb cover everything dmg wise.
The cheap version of this build is pretty strong, so everyone can give it a try. ( will post expensive and cheap build )
Sorc has to use Lidelss wall against: barb/java/smiter/zealer/shaper ( rules right now )
We can use a top stat belt like 5fcr/17fhr-24fhr/str/life/mana or whatver stat you desire, even the expensive version is using this cheap version of a top item. you want str on belt when Orb is not 2 socketed

This build, hast better stats than the old and still is able to use a Thundergods without using a token.
Very expensive build can use TG with maxblock :P ( post 2 )

Con

The expensive version is very expensive like with every other build
Amulet needs to be 2fire/15fcr/mana. --> looking for 2 years now.


Stats and Skills


Fcr: 105
Fhr: 86 --> depend on your playstyle, all my setups have 86, call it nostalgia. you do not need 86% vs certain matchups. ( since patch 2.4 )
Strengt: ZERO POINTS ( For Tg setup we need a rare circlet with str on it )
Dex: Depend on your amulet and circlet, depend on cheap or expensive build. I play expensive with 17 points into dex, but my amulet is kinda ,, cheap''

All old guides were referring to 2 points into fire mastery, its is 3!



Items for block build ( will give you ingame s/s with the cheap build with the items listed above )


Orb: 2sorc/20fcr/3fireball/116mana/1sock --> 7fhr/9str/9dex

Circlet: 2fire/20fcr/15dex/88mana --> 7fhr/9str/9dex

memory 9es


2xsoj

Waterwalks

Magefist


amulet: 1fire/20fcr/69mana/10reg/12@res

Armor: Twitchthroe 7fhr/9str/9dex/19fr

shield idless wall 7fhr/9dex/19Fireres/-req

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sorc vs sorc, its hard to go in detail with the cheap build because its not maxed out.


Viper 7fhr/9str
circlet 3fire/20fcr/2xperf ruby
belt 10fcr/24fhr/54life/26mana/8reg
magefist
waterwalk
amulet 3fire/100life
ring 1: 10fcr/12str/20life/90mana
ring 2: 10fcr/11str/30life/53mana/22Lr/10Fr
Orb 3fire/20fcr/3fireball --> 7fhr/9str
shield: swordback hold --> 20life/20mana

the picture below is with the items above. ( remember this is the cheap build) post 2 will skyrocket with stats :P


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This post was edited by Octogenarian on Aug 14 2023 12:35am
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Part 2 general block eq


against zealer/smiter/foh/barb/java/amazon/shaper/v/t/libby


i cannot provide you with ingame s/s because i was stupid enough to trade away my orb. My items comes close to 95% of the maxroll i will provide.


Stats: 11 point dex, rest ene.
There is no token used in the following setups


Items


Orb: 3fire/20fcr/3fb/3fm/3teleport/2sock --> 7fhr/9str/9dex//15mana the other jewel 7fhr/9str/9dex/30Lightres
Circlet: 2fire/20fcr/15dex/60life/90mana/2sock --> 7fhr/9str/9dex/12d2m x2
Amulet: 2fire/20fcr/110mana
Armor: Twitchthroe --> 7fhr/9str/9dex/15mana+
Rgins: soj x 2
Shield: Lidles wall :P --> 7fhr/9str/9dex/15Lightres
Belt: 10fcr/24fhr/60life/40mana/5rep/10reg
Boots: waterwalk
Gloves: Magefist

Inventory: 3 skiller rest 20/17
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we do not need any other res than Lightres with this block setup but we will face java zons and v/t's, thats why the jewel choice on orb and lidless.

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/jw010on1


Life 1044
Replenish Life+5
Mana 2464
Mana Regeneration 70.3
FB dmg: 7536-8203
Fcr: 105
Fhr: 86


Part 3 Thundergods/maxblock eq

yes, you read correct, Tg AND maxblock

when you 1v1 an assasin, since 2.4 we can go with 60fhr instead of 86 ( loosing 24fhr here because we switch the belt to tg )
When you want 86fhr, do it with the inventory, our stats are still high you have the ressources to do so.



Orb: 3fire/20fcr/3fb/3fm/3teleport/2sock --> 7fhr/9str/9dex//15mana the other jewel 7fhr/9str/9dex/30Lightres
Circlet: 2fire/20fcr/15str/60life/90mana/2sock --> 7fhr/9str/9dex/15mana x2
Amulet: 2fire/20fcr/110mana
Armor: Twitchthroe --> 7fhr/9str/9dex/15mana+
Rings: 10fcr/15str/15dex/90mana + 1 soj
Shield: Lidles wall :P --> 7fhr/9str/9dex/15Lightres
Belt: TG
Boots: waterwalk
Gloves: Magefist
Inventory: 3 skiller rest 20/17


https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/7d011ong


Life 994
Mana 2094
Mana Regeneration 57.8
FB Dmg: 7537-8203
Fcr: 105
Fhr: 60 ( when you want 86 in tvt situation, do it with the charms )


This could be a tvt setup, did not thought any wider into this but you most likley need more fire res in a tvt situation. Just posting this to pump the numbers up and show you whats possible, do the rest on your own.




This post was edited by Octogenarian on Aug 14 2023 12:36am
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I managed to get my old orb back, will receive it today evening and will upload pictures with in game s/s how expensive looks like :)


Any critism towards this build is appreciated.

You can adept the concept lidless/twitch on any other sorc.

Will write a Guide today evening for vita fire. ( cannot wait to see the sorc vs sorc stats on this killer machine lol )
Short guess ( 1500 life )

This post was edited by Octogenarian on Aug 14 2023 01:37am
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Need to see eye of etlich on this build!
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Aug 14 2023 05:13am
Quote (Octogenarian @ Aug 14 2023 09:25am)
Any critism towards this build is appreciated.


Fast blocking whistan build > lidless build

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Quote (Melatonina @ 14 Aug 2023 13:13)
Fast blocking whistan build > lidless build

you beggar


Maybe when you face tank a zealer, a high fbr might be usefull, you are right.
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Aug 14 2023 10:28am
is this build suitable for eu to US cross play vs ibzack?
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Voted no
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Aug 14 2023 11:13am
Mama Mia lidless max block 🤯🤯🤯🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤡🤡🤡
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Quote (Octogenarian @ Aug 14 2023 04:24pm)
Maybe when you face tank a zealer, a high fbr might be usefull, you are right.


higher life/mana and faster block is better when you face any opponent
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