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Mar 9 2023 09:44pm
been thinking about getting into lld on scnl, is this a viable build? i've seen a lot of contradicting opinions online, what are everyone's thoughts?
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Mar 9 2023 10:24pm
Unless you wanna cheese it with traps they're generally pretty weak.
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They can be pretty good, the teleport kick got a huge buff so now it’s easier to slaughter mages and runners.
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Mar 10 2023 12:36am
This is the kind of contradicting opinions i was talking about lol
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Quote (PoopsMcGee75 @ Mar 10 2023 01:36am)
This is the kind of contradicting opinions i was talking about lol


It’ll be a little different now with fhr changes. Used to just inferno lock everyone and ezy. You still won’t beat high end pallies though.
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Mar 10 2023 03:38am
Since you miss Guillaume(lvl 34) you will have problems getting a high CB in combi with ctc amp at this level.

Kicks deals low dmg from the skill itself, its the fast attack rate and high attackrating in combi with ctc effects which can make it decent.

Very lld kickers can get away inital damage, ctc amp super early and decent elemtanl damage. However at lvl 30 this will be a little low in my eyes.

Goblins = 25% cb
Rattle carge = 25% cb
5ctc amp/ias/fool's mod GT
Some good shield (swordback for 50% ow or moser's for res, or some kind of rare)
Death' gloves + belt or Strings + bloodfirst or 20ias/CB craft gloves, dno what level requirement martial skills adds on them. Just check on d2planner. Depending on if need DR% or not and if need CNBF.
Rings i dno, maby 1 angelic + angelic ammu or rare or some stashed stuff situation based...
Helm at this level is harder:
Most likely blue jeweled one, or 2martial/30frw/2soc with high elemental damage, maby socet shael for fhr. Ias jewel is lvl 31 so out of the picture...

You should also check lld rules, some char types are allowed to gain higher level at some point, i know lvl 49'ers melee assa can go lvl 54 or smt...

This post was edited by gel87 on Mar 10 2023 03:41am
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Quote (gel87 @ Mar 10 2023 04:38am)
Since you miss Guillaume(lvl 34) you will have problems getting a high CB in combi with ctc amp at this level.

Kicks deals low dmg from the skill itself, its the fast attack rate and high attackrating in combi with ctc effects which can make it decent.

Very lld kickers can get away inital damage, ctc amp super early and decent elemtanl damage. However at lvl 30 this will be a little low in my eyes.

Goblins = 25% cb
Rattle carge = 25% cb
5ctc amp/ias/fool's mod GT
Some good shield (swordback for 50% ow or moser's for res, or some kind of rare)
Death' gloves + belt or Strings + bloodfirst or 20ias/CB craft gloves, dno what level requirement martial skills adds on them. Just check on d2planner. Depending on if need DR% or not and if need CNBF.
Rings i dno, maby 1 angelic + angelic ammu or rare or some stashed stuff situation based...
Helm at this level is harder:
Most likely blue jeweled one, or 2martial/30frw/2soc with high elemental damage, maby socet shael for fhr. Ias jewel is lvl 31 so out of the picture...

You should also check lld rules, some char types are allowed to gain higher level at some point, i know lvl 49'ers melee assa can go lvl 54 or smt...


Thank you for the input!
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Mar 11 2023 12:11am
u can use up'd sigon boot now

also

strength runeword handscythe

edit: oh i also found this rondel that is amp%5 80 ar, tri -element dmg (decent) ethereal

if u want this weapon to mess around with on lvl 30 kicker u can probably just have it.

Not sure if elekicker is effective at lvl 30 thought this weapon would beinteresting for lvl 30 kicker

This post was edited by GuyLadouche on Mar 11 2023 12:13am
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Mar 11 2023 12:22am
there is a few kickers around right now that do quite well. can be fun and fairly budget if you want but definitely not a top tier build
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Mar 11 2023 12:41am
Trap kick are amazing if piloted correctly, higher skill cap and much more fun
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