3 of the people mentioning tele (4 if you count me) are euro players tho

TBH doesn't make much of a difference, the biggest difference euro vs east vs west is euro is way more laid back in a casual tvt setting and cares more about making the teams fair than the other realms


I can't tele on euro anyways due to ping so not really a dog in the fight.

have you even tried a windy w/o tele vs a barb or shaper ? i mean we tried that with lam3r and harabec, it was tested and it was balanced...i think we even used twinsin? i guess you dont know these users... (yes i am being so bold now).
i mean, run based @ eu is a playstyle that has existed since forever. east went with teleport @ 30 some years ago, but that does not mean that eu has to follow. we have perfectly reasonable 1v1's and team duels...

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 29 2021 01:00pm

the guys who posted above you are either from EU or have played in EU over the last year(s) and have the intention of playing in EU in the future

barbs are not necessarily more op with teleport, they are just less lame in my opinion. The sole strategy of a frw barb is to rely on the surprise effect of hard desynch to land a hit. So fun...
no beef here, I respect your opinion/experience, just speaking out mine.



I have tried, yes, as I followed your rule set when I joined up lld. In my experience barbs with good stuff rape the standing druid. But either way these are not very interesting match-ups so I'm fine with the rule set as it is, if you like it this way.


This post was edited by Consoude on Jan 29 2021 01:01pm

I know and have played with all of them.

No point banning tele in those matches still, just make the barb be better. I love shaper but I know they will never be S tier in 1v1, more fun in 3v3 and 4v4 than 1v1 for sure.

edit: no disrespect towards you, it's your home realm ofc, but other people have been playing with different rules on ladder and nl for close to 2 years now just having fun

This post was edited by IAmAsylum on Jan 29 2021 01:02pm

Twinsen uses tele on his Druid (hej) vs all. He has for at least the past 2 years or so.

twinsin does not need WMD to kill a shaper. i am happy for w/e rule he wants btw since he is fair.

They are definately much better if the pilot is good. Not many barb pilots are though to be honest.

I can picture being stupid good on a tele barb though

This post was edited by lld_mayhem on Jan 29 2021 01:05pm

I dueled ferdia a couple times on east, he said necro didn’t need teleport, I then proceeded to teleport on him and speared him in the face.

he even uses cube to hold sticks

Hehe true maybe. From my perspective playing with stick also opens up to getting crushed if you fuck up your timing. Especially when facing a bowzon using kb ( ). Still I've found it very hard to catch 105fcr sorcs...
I just find the gameplay more interesting that's all. Hence why I'd vote for it to be allowed as an option for those who like better than the frw version. Kb allowed on zon against tele barbs becomes compulsory then I guess.