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Feb 15 2012 01:23am
taugenixx has withdrawn, as he completed less then 30% of his duels I have simply removed all his results/scores vs him.
sliky pmd to see what he is doing. most likely I will have the same policy for him.

Quote (dyl4nd0u @ Feb 14 2012 08:34pm)
this ruleset restricts wsg only, not (willingly increased) synch in general.


so yes we might have to review this particular rule (after this tournament).





This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 15 2012 01:35am
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Quote (ferdia @ Feb 15 2012 08:23am)
taugenixx has withdrawn, as he completed less then 30% of his duels I have simply removed all his results/scores vs him.
sliky pmd to see what he is doing. most likely I will have the same policy for him.



so yes we might have to review this particular rule (after this tournament).

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Taugenixx is busy and most active at ladder core.
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Feb 15 2012 05:07am
Btw me + Atek555 duelled at the beginnging of the tour..
I think you might forgoto to add this to the scoreboard ;)

I think it was a 5-3 for me but I cant really remember.
Pming atek about that... He'll post here too I hope.
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Feb 15 2012 05:50am
ferdia why hell do you remove all results vs withdrawn people? i got 5 duells deleted by now and more to be followed?
anyway, i dont know why i should do any more duels if you think of po's with 16 players. thats more then 60%... kinda ridiculous
and you forgot my 5-0 against timmy_83 or did he withdraw allready?
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Feb 15 2012 06:54am
Where a player has completed less then 30% of his duels (or say, 10 duels), I have several options:

option 1: remove him from the tournament, remove all scores associated with him. this is done with the intention of leveling the playing field.
option 2: keep all results he completed and give all his outstanding opponents a TKO win. (this is unfair on the players that he has dueled and is biased towards those players that did not duel him - this is counter to the idea of rewarding players that have dueled him.)
option 3: null all duels not completed. ( not fair when the player is removing the potential points from the opponents he has not dueled yet) . While this option is something I may do at the end of the group stage, I dont deem it fair when the user in question has not completed a predetermined minimum amount of duels and/or has pulled out of the tournament.

Option 2, where the % duels completed is so low, affects too many people and could radically change the table. Its unfair on all the players that dueled him. Also when its clear that people have simply not been able to catch players, I am not going to penalise them for not completing the duel (i.e. nulling the duel).

Players complete as many duels as they can in order to be best placed to advance further in the KO stage, and to be seeded for the next tournament.

i trust this clarifies.

finally, less rage, more level headed arguments. I am reasonable, and can be reasoned with, if you provide a rationale argument.

note: sliky has withdrawn and I will be applying the same policy as above (i.e. removal from scorecard).

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Feb 15 2012 07:51am
addesmile
biochi
chum
guigui41

no answers regarding when we can duel from these^^
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Feb 15 2012 08:04am
I have it set to TKO all those users you just mentioned, from all of their outstanding duels.

seperately note that it will be a last 16. I have already posted previously the last 16 setup (i.e. 1 vs 16 2 vs 15 etc.)

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Feb 15 2012 08:48am
Quote (FasterA @ Feb 15 2012 08:47am)
Taugenixx is busy and most active at ladder core.


mat is mature enough to speak for himself though.

Quote (ferdia @ Feb 15 2012 01:54pm)
Where a player has completed less then 30% of his duels (or say, 10 duels), I have several options:

option 1: remove him from the tournament, remove all scores associated with him. this is done with the intention of leveling the playing field.
option 2: keep all results he completed and give all his outstanding opponents a TKO win. (this is unfair on the players that he has dueled and is biased towards those players that did not duel him - this is counter to the idea of rewarding players that have dueled him.)
option 3: null all duels not completed. ( not fair when the player is removing the potential points from the opponents he has not dueled yet) . While this option is something I may do at the end of the group stage, I dont deem it fair when the user in question has not completed a predetermined minimum amount of duels and/or has pulled out of the tournament.

Option 2, where the % duels completed is so low, affects too many people and could radically change the table. Its unfair on all the players that dueled him. Also when its clear that people have simply not been able to catch players, I am not going to penalise them for not completing the duel (i.e. nulling the duel).

Players complete as many duels as they can in order to be best placed to advance further in the KO stage, and to be seeded for the next tournament.

i trust this clarifies.

finally, less rage, more level headed arguments. I am reasonable, and can be reasoned with, if you provide a rationale argument.

note: sliky has withdrawn and I will be applying the same policy as above (i.e. removal from scorecard).


option 2 seems to be the fairest, still whats a tko win 5pts or 10? id suggest 5 pts as there is a chance for ppl who had challanged the tkod one to either win or loose. if they win, they get 5> pts, if they loose 5< pts. so there is a natural balancing in this method...
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Feb 15 2012 09:49am
Quote (ferdia @ 15 Feb 2012 16:04)
I have it set to TKO all those users you just mentioned, from all of their outstanding duels.

seperately note that it will be a last 16. I have already posted previously the last 16 setup (i.e. 1 vs 16 2 vs 15 etc.)

regards
ferdi


ok iam w8ing for a updated scoreboard and a list with users still in the tour.
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Feb 15 2012 10:29am
I_ecca, Only sliky and taugenixx have withdrawn, as i previously stated. I will do an updated chart this evening. I would remind everyone to please call out any duels which I may have missed. you pm’d me re: chart not up to date, I would like to think that I have updated it regularly, I don’t think I will ever be doing daily updates sorry.

Dyl4nd0u, while your suggestion might appear reasonable to some, it may not be construed as reasonable to others. I will TKO those users that clearly have not actively sought to complete their duels (as I have done in previous tournaments). I would encourage everyone to read over previous tournaments sothat they can understand my reasoning. I gave clear timelines for everyone (5 and 10 duels respectively). Where I am unsure on dodge/availability between players, I will try to seek clarification. I may consider your proposal to grant each player 5 points, I will think about it (as opposed to nulling the duel). There were several late entrants to the tournament and I did clearly state to them what I expected of them (i.e. to complete as many duels as they could). I will not be awarding them any TKO’s since they arrived late.

Separately, Next tournament I simply wont allow late entrants unless there are enough to spread across more then 1 group (as the next tournament will ideally have 2+ groups – less duels).

Also, Yes, i got alot of pms from FasterA. He is dissatisfied with my treatment of him. It was implied that several users pulled out of this tournament in protest at the way he was treated (and that I was lame). I have always tried to make the fairest decision and I am conscious that I cannot keep everyone happy. This is across the board. I don’t always get it right. I have had to block him now, as honestly i am at an impasse. He refuses to stop bming ingame. This is something that i have repeatedly been pulled up on in the past by many people. I don’t want to be dictating to people as to what they can and cannot do but it was incorrectly assumed in the past that my inaction was an endorsement of this type of behaviour. I hope that I have been clear in this regard.

I wish him well in the ladder tournament and I hope that with a new group of players that he will get another chance to start over.

If I missed anything, just call it out. Again, I will do an update this evening, per request.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 15 2012 10:31am
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