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Oct 10 2010 09:59am
Quote (ferdia @ Oct 10 2010 04:54pm)
Dej, is your argument for mana potions "because i can't afford mana at the expense of damage ?"

I am fully aware that mana potions will create more Off play, but who exactly wants mana potions on europe MLD ?

rushing is and never will be viable in ama v ama @ 49 as the damage on shadow bows is simply too high. it works at LLD and HLD, not @ MLD. allowing mana potions @ 49 on a zon for the purposes of spamming multi is a bit...OP.


you believe that ppl won't need mana on their chars at all because of mana pots? like there'll appear 30 mana barbs running aorund with idk what?

mana is still needed, but to some extent.

ppl still use life/manas at hld even if mana pots are GM.

Who talked about ava? i didn't. I talked in general. Multi is really nice to rush teams with.

My argument is that if I have to sacrifice 600 dmg for a valid mana pool, I'll always get beaten by the one who got the mana pool and 600 more dmg because they're itemlame.

I know all you're trying to do is making me accidently say that my low mana pool on v/T is why i want pots.

troll through babouns topic and you'll see ppl agree with mana pots isn't a bad idea.
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Quote (Dwerfs @ Oct 10 2010 04:52pm)
Who are you to say that?

You can afford everything.

No, I can't. I own top eu chars ( sorc/nec ), but I'm not #1 itemlamer, and I used to play ghetto chars in the past ( esblizz with 1,4 k mana ), it was still playable.


what?

for an example:
barbarians could have use of it (even if 1.13 should nullify most of the need)
vita sorcs (eventually not FB/light but cold)
most paladins (hello medi whoring)
amas so they can use multi shot which is >> ga by far, also makes rushing more viable
necros will just insight whore when low on mana (which they always are)
trapsins would need it

a lot of chars owuld need it

"hehe, just get better rings/amus/chamrs/items/quit mld

barbs don't eventually need mana pots anymore
There is no vita sorcs around, and vita sorc can use insight anyway
Palas, as you mentionned, can use medi and the fact that they use medi doesnt allow them to use vigor, wich make them weaker
Multi > Ga ? lol
As long as you arent a spamwhore, mana pots/insight isnt needed ( IF you have decent mana pool aka 1k+ mana )
I agree for trapsin in a certain way
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Quote (ferdia @ Oct 10 2010 05:41pm)

Chris, Yes michel fucks people over, its OK to say his name. Michel is not in the tournaments, and does not partake in any of my TVT's and I have told him not to use my accounts to NK. Michel has quite a few of his own accounts and what he does on them is his own business, his behaviour is not welcome in the tvt's or tournaments that I arrange and he is aware of this. If you cannot post something constructive, and all you can do is complain, then why bother? why not let people play around in their little community instead of swooping in to disrupt things? You have "quit" several times and posting all this over and over in the forums in not constructive.
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Is it only allowed to complain about rules in order to be 'constructive'? He pointed out why the mld comunity is shrinking, there are always old players that quit but no new players come up.
New players come from ladder and are confronted with a bunch of idiots of course they wont stay nl or will ever enter your tour.
And lol at 'michel is not allowed to nk with my accounts' why does he even have access when he wont do ever anything construktive?

(I dont want to bash at michel there are apparently enaugh other players that do their best to destroy the community)
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Oct 10 2010 10:01am
Just as a matter of interest, you would allow mana potions on all builds except ES Sorc's, is this correct ?

also, BeAy, several new players came up last tournament if you have a look at the names compared to previous tournaments btw. also not sure what you mean by your opening remark, you want somone to complain justfor the sake of complaining and not doing something about it ?


This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 10 2010 10:04am
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Oct 10 2010 10:02am
tl;dr euro m@l@@/10
stylish/10

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I agree with you on your points on the EP players, im not happy that they refuse to play with the community and instead play against it.


i will gladly play tvt "with the community", as long as the teams are not total nonsense and sorcs don't expect amazons to hunt them etc ;)

i've played most mld chars and so far i havent had manaproblems on any char but trap-assassin
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i will gladly play tvt "with the community", as long as the teams are not total nonsense and sorcs don't expect amazons to hunt them etc ;)

i've played most mld chars and so far i havent had manaproblems on any char but trap-assassin


yes, but once again you're pretty rich and got a lot of old EP stuff like frw manas and shit that people can't obtain anymore

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Just as a matter of interest, you would allow mana potions on all builds except ES Sorc's, is this correct ?

several new players came up last tournament if you have a look at the names compared toprevious tournaments btw.


yes, i would allow it.

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you're talking about es blizz as a ghetto char. es uses mana as life which would obv be banned

guess why there's no vita chars? because it's better to just use ES because they still need a massive mana pool

palas = medi = defwhoring, just look at tweety. you just hide off screen with medi, nn rush with it

multi > ga at hld, and is completely overlooked at MLD because you don't have the mana pool for

and how to get 1k+ mana? massive itemlaming.

You own top eu chars, sorc+nec. both are defensive chars (blizz is to some extent an offensive char, but got warmth)



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Oct 10 2010 10:04am
if you need mana pots, you built your char wrong...
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Oct 10 2010 10:05am
Leevolka and licio and many other Libby players have shown that you don't need to def whore. tw3ety (hi) def whores on every character he uses. blame the player, not the character.

thank you soren.

Dej, everyone in the tournaments uses "top" eu characters.

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Quote (Dwerfs @ Oct 10 2010 05:03pm)
yes, but once again you're pretty rich and got a lot of old EP stuff like frw manas and shit that people can't obtain anymore



yes, i would allow it.



you're talking about es blizz as a ghetto char. es uses mana as life which would obv be banned

guess why there's no vita chars? because it's better to just use ES because they still need a massive mana pool

palas = medi = defwhoring, just look at tweety. you just hide off screen with medi, nn rush with it

multi > ga at hld, and is completely overlooked at MLD because you don't have the mana pool for 

and how to get 1k+ mana? massive itemlaming.

You own top eu chars, sorc+nec. both are defensive chars (blizz is to some extent an offensive char, but got warmth)


You're Stigmatizing.

Twe3ty =/= Everyone's way of playing. Just because he defwhore, we should ban medi ? com'on.

I don't think multi would be that good, since you wouldn't have enough arrow to cast and it would burn your mana too fast, even with mana pots. ( this is theorycraft tho )

You can get 1k+ mana without itemlaming, just use scs life/mana - frw/mana instead of pb sks, wich is not a big deal in term of dmg on a nec.

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Quote (ferdia @ Oct 10 2010 05:05pm)
Leevolka and licio and many other Libby players have shown that you don't need to def whore. tw3ety (hi) def whores on every character he uses. blame the player, not the character


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This post was edited by maximus_le_roi on Oct 10 2010 10:09am
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