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Oct 12 2020 04:29pm
Quote (IAmAsylum @ Oct 12 2020 05:28pm)
I like that we are arguing about b tier rules for a tournament that finished 3 months ago


And the xbow zon was no where near the top. And not because of dodges lol.



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Oct 12 2020 04:34pm
let's get the xbow zon rolling right now who has a charger, a libby, and wants to team up and 3.5k ga some people
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let's get the xbow zon rolling right now who has a charger, a libby, and wants to team up and 3.5k ga some people



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Oct 12 2020 04:48pm
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More life... more damage...

How does a 35 fcr hdin equal that lol. Especially with arrows that guide not slow ass hammers that half of the time only hit cause of amount that’s spammed
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Oct 12 2020 04:50pm
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More life... more damage...

How does a 35 fcr hdin equal that lol. Especially with arrows that guide not slow ass hammers that half of the time only hit cause of amount that’s spammed


haha I'm not even talking about xbow vs hammers as a general char im just loving the dope ass char. it's 15 fpa though but it's pretty funny. it's hilarious once you get a few auras on it but 1vs1 it's not that great
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Oct 12 2020 04:54pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 12 2020 06:11pm)
Calm down sport. I've played literally every lld build. I mained an libby for years.

Needing a bit longer synch on a char with unresistable magic dmg on the char with arguably the best mobility in all of lld is a handicap. But it offer u some good gear options especially over 125 setup.

Using a ballista makes u have 95 str. Lower life than a bow zon. Slower and 250 bolts vs 350 arrows. And only really viable with a single prepatch bow. A more severe handicap.

Just generally why u so aggro lol. U seem like my xbow zon hurt u bad. Smoke a bowl and slow down a bit


i dont do the weed thing man, but my shots fired were for trev and were not meant in an aggressive way, meant it in a joking way, because trev hates hdin lol.

anyways those handicaps are pretty similar, when you say "goodgear options" you are talking about losing 125 fcr for 75 and making a libi. im talking about not even letting someone use a 20 fcr circ at same time as 35 fcr spirit, like put the limit at 35 fcr only. or even just 30. yeah you can have charge dmg to make up for your lack of fcr, but thats the same thing exactly as having 500+ more ga dmg but shooting at a slower frame.

its not like by using less fcr i can get higher hammer dmg, 125 fcr with the scepter is very easy to have, so ur dmg cap is the same at 125 fcr as it is at 30 fcr.

literally your only plausible thing you could say is that maybe it would have to be more like 25 fcr limit on hdin to be truly the same, since 14 fpa is slow as hell lol. with 25 being the limit youd hit the extremely slow 18 fcr bp.

the paladin having the ability to do charge dmg once u lose some fcr, is like losing framespeed to do the 500-600 more ga dmg that ur ballista does. also when you talk about having to have 95 str on bowa, you need 103 on pally to have any kind of good hammer wep for decent charge dmg, divine scepter. so again, its literally the same thing.

for the 3rd time i never even dueled the zon to get mad at it, other than in tvt with it on my own team, im just being honest with you man, you acting like its not the same as no fcr hdin is just you hating on hdins and favoring zons, which this sub forum sadly has a very long history of doing.
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haha I'm not even talking about xbow vs hammers as a general char im just loving the dope ass char. it's 15 fpa though but it's pretty funny. it's hilarious once you get a few auras on it but 1vs1 it's not that great



I never dueled it honestly so I don’t know. It’s all speculation for me as I’m just going off pure hdin lol.

But yeah it looks sexy af tbh
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Oct 12 2020 04:56pm
Quote (herpesfreesince03 @ 12 Oct 2020 16:54)
I never dueled it honestly so I don’t know. It’s all speculation for me as I’m just going off pure hdin lol.

But yeah it looks sexy af tbh


haha the only problem with it is speed really. 15 fpa / 99 frw is a far cry from the usual 9 fpa/120+ frw you see. Also without soe it's pretty fragile. But yeah something cool about it is that once you see the LL swirl, there is no question that someone is critically injured haha.

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15 fpa 2 handed blockable attack is str8 trash in 1v1


yeah pretty much

This post was edited by Belarathon on Oct 12 2020 04:58pm
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15 fpa 2 handed blockable attack is str8 trash in 1v1
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