I'm a grower not a show-her
No shame

not that i care because i main a pure hdin that has used tearhaunch and literally zero rep ontop of that for ages now (so none from hardstat pray because i dont and none from gear) just so that people would have absolutely no reason to bitch at me because anytime they do i actually prove i'm not only adhearing to their bogus desires, im also hindering myself by having zero rep at all and still slamming them.
but for the people who wanna play a libi i dont think its fair for them to not have access to their most important synergy, that being vigor, the one that adds dmg to literally both of said hybrid characters skills.

also there is already rules about excessive l8zing, a din who keeps medding continually and never has conc up is going to be looking pretty damn l8z, and keeping it up the entire duel is literally the only way that so called "50 rep with 0 on gear" would be even close to equivilent to 30 rep at all times with conc/vigor up. on my libi which i only ever played on ladder, i have 1500 mana tho, so i almost never had medi on anyways and can definitely confirm a 30 rep char would be gaining way more total life from rep per duel than i was. and i only played libi for like half of ladder this past season and even i can tell this fact so anyone with extensive experience on libi feel free to back me up here.

shoot me a pm when u make the real new thread i was looking for it but could not find, or i can just keep my eyes peeled if you dont have time to pm me. hope my thoughts on prayer make a difference before the actual thread is put up, its been a long standing rule that 10 rep with hardstat prayer is more than fair and the arguments are all very easy to understand, a din with hardstat prayer has more than 30 rep with medi up its true, but unless ur gonna keep it up the whole duel and hinder urself by either getting dq'd for looking l8z, or getting beat up for having no dmg because you refuse to conc, its not gonna heal ur life in total nearly as much as a consistent 30 rep the entire time, and if a fw sorc gets to have 75 block and fucking 30 rep, libi should def be allowed 1 pt prayer so that they can max vigor, which adds so much dmg to charge that if i wasnt allowed to max vigor id never play libi in my life it would feel pointless, i already feel a pure hdin is better anyways from personal preference but they would definitely be the superior hammer build if you couldnt even max vigor to add mad dmg to charge and still have decent hammer dmg because its a synergy for both, its an unfortunate thing that prayer is the prerequisite for vigor but thats just how the cookie crumbles.

i wouldd understand if you wanted to go to the extreme of banning rep outright on a hardstat prayer libidin, but to completely not allow the skill that is their bread and butter just because you have to put a pt in prayer to get to it, seems barbaric to me. it would be pretty fucked up if the only euro rule we decided to take was the one designed to hurt pallys but then sorces can still be 75 block and wsg is still allowed so the other 2 tier 1 llds (zon/sorc) dont get hurt at all by these rules but a din does? like wtf foreal lol.

This post was edited by MADIrishGunner on Jun 8 2020 07:37am

So it owns nothing?

That's how it reads atleast.

I agree

But I’m just a little torn on a Libby using insight and maybe just use a med scepter where they can’t have med and conc going

Just dunno

Can’t remove hard stat from Libby period tho

This post was edited by cota on Jun 8 2020 07:57am

there ya go ban insight, most libi's wouldn't use it anyways apart from adam, and we already banned eth no rep weapons so thats enough imo because u lose block to have that and also ur hammer dmg goes way down from not having like +6 to hammers (4 honor/2 spirit shield) but yeah if ur afraid of super big dmg or something from vigor being allowed to be maxed, then just ban insight on libi.

taking away max vigor would be totally rude especially if zons can still wsg with 150 frw and sorces can still have 30 rep 75 block, its like favoritism, on euro they balance everything out by hurting every char if they hurt just one, but so far from these rules ive seen a big hate on pallys that the zon/sorc players seem very much to want to support but no one backing up doing the same to sorc/zon which is pretty hypocritical imo.

This post was edited by MADIrishGunner on Jun 8 2020 08:11am

Hey I’m against es sorcs too and ban tele on barbs too

U leave my sticks out of this

100 frw cap on zon right tyler? lmao

Yep lol

paladins cant use dmg aura while charging now as well