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May 31 2018 03:02pm
Quote (mike_roch @ May 31 2018 04:00pm)
Doesn't cb and ow suck for ranged attacks?


yup

better to use kb gloves or rares imho

Quote (Avenged123 @ May 31 2018 04:02pm)
Not sure what you mean... I know for awhile ppl would use swordback on switch to get some offscreen OW procs


there are penalties for cb & ow for ranged attacks. dont feel like looking it up, but its rough. if you can squeeze them in free, take em, but generally speaking you can get better options from different choices, like instead of cb gloves you can get 2/10/5rep/5dex and a resist or two if you need em. ow belt never beats string, its more for fun imho. i keep one on my barb, but its not really very good

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May 31 2018 03:03pm
Open wounds prevents rep or slows it down at least
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Quote (meegz1 @ May 31 2018 02:02pm)
yup

better to use kb gloves or rares imho



If you’re using rogues then you already have kb

Anyone know what mods can spawn on lld CB gloves?
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Quote (Avenged123 @ May 31 2018 04:05pm)
If you’re using rogues then you already have kb

Anyone know what mods can spawn on lld CB gloves?


derp. still applicable to a 3 shael ashwood setup though.

10 ias single mod puts you at 28 iirc for craft gloves
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Quote (meegz1 @ May 31 2018 02:02pm)
yup

better to use kb gloves or rares imho



there are penalties for cb & ow for ranged attacks. dont feel like looking it up, but its rough. if you can squeeze them in free, take em, but generally speaking you can get better options from different choices, like instead of cb gloves you can get 2/10/5rep/5dex and a resist or two if you need em. ow belt never beats string, its more for fun imho. i keep one on my barb, but its not really very good



The idea was getting another form of hit dmg for the low dmg rogues gives... iirc ds + cs work the same way and double dmg ? So w/ cb chance you can possibly chunk away life w/ low rolls was my idea...
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May 31 2018 03:14pm
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The idea was getting another form of hit dmg for the low dmg rogues gives... iirc ds + cs work the same way and double dmg ? So w/ cb chance you can possibly chunk away life w/ low rolls was my idea...


Nah Cb takes a % which is halved for ranged attacks. As is ow dmg iirc. If that's half duration it sucks more as like Mike said it's great anti rep.

Cb gloves are the same as kb. 10 ias and a poop mod or no ias and better mods.

edit: misread "CS" as "CB"

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Quote (thesnipa @ May 31 2018 04:14pm)
Nah Cb takes a % which is halved for ranged attacks. As is ow dmg iirc. If that's half duration it sucks more as like Mike said it's great anti rep.

Cb gloves are the same as kb. 10 ias and a poop mod or no ias and better mods.


ow damage is based on level of attacker and i believe thats it, so nothing the opponent does will matter other than 40 life rep to slow it? at best im sure they still lose life

cb can be dr'd vs and yes its halved on ranged so its not good in lld scenario

This post was edited by Haseo on May 31 2018 03:16pm
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May 31 2018 03:18pm
So 10ias/half freeze or 10ias/5rep

Not that I’ma do it was just freeballin ideas, would be interesting to dick around w/
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May 31 2018 03:19pm
ias on gloves doesn't matter tho, because rogues bow alone hits the 9fpa.

i have a pair of 0 ias dual high res gloves that would work fine when you dont need the fhr/life/min on bfists
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The idea was getting another form of hit dmg for the low dmg rogues gives... iirc ds + cs work the same way and double dmg ? So w/ cb chance you can possibly chunk away life w/ low rolls was my idea...


fair enough, and ds + cs are multiplicative, not additive, and only one can trigger. so, 60% chance of crit is 60% of it going off, then if it doesnt trigger the 30% from rogues has a chance to go off. so, 0.3 x 0.4 = 0.12, giving you 72% chance of doing double damage (if you have 60% critical strike, which i think is pretty normal for lvl 30 zons, yeah? if you go with a 50% crit passive, you'd end up with 65% chance of double damage using rogues)

and crushing blow on ranged is seriously weakened

"-with missile weapons, vs. Players: 1/20th"

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