tbh i tend to lean towards Nerlen's assessment. Libby is undoubtedly more fun to play, and as it's more dynamic it's more difficult to play against in term of reading your opponent, but it's only better in matchups where charge>hdin. Which really comes down to bowa, other chargers and trapper for me. I think the 1-2 breakpoints of hammer and the much smaller mana pool just make it worse than Hdin in a lot of matchups, barb being the most obvious example.

that said depending on rules around medi, l8z, etc it's a bit different. AND i think that a skilled Libby might be the most difficult character to read and play against, whereas you know generally what a charger wants to do and exactly what a hammerdin wants to do. and we have to of course discuss dualspirit with a 1h charge swap vs 75 fcr honor & insight swap. i know the dual spirits is really only a popular ladder build and maybe not even there anymore.

edit: i forgot i guess that kaz has 125. that's undoubtedly the best libby design and i could agree that beats straight hammerdin

This post was edited by thesnipa on Feb 23 2017 02:43pm

Like 850 mana,

And synching is super important, but you spend like 6 charges just to telegraph to your very skilled opponent that you're synching, they step off your map to resynch you and you're back to square one with less mana.

However if you enter their minimap, charge 2 or 3 times, make sure they're long correct charges, you're synched hard as fuck immediately and can attack from anywhere you want after that. You don't have to be constantly synching. Plan one good synch, Excecute an attack, leave if they block it well, come back invisible again later with full mana.

People forget that libbys and dins are so powerful that everyone assumes they are the aggressor 100% of the time or they're bm. You add a tiny bit of defensive resources and suddenly hdin or libby becomes a brick wall

This post was edited by Pants1 on Feb 23 2017 02:46pm

Libby* hdin less versatile

2hand Libby best

2hand wsg bva >

tbh i actually really like running around at 75 fcr with insight out. the potential burst damage for just an immediate charge while still maintaining hammers that do over 1k is pretty hilarious. works great against necs lmao

Its a ton of fun.

I have really comfortable matches vs hdins I just use double spirit and insight, seems easy for me if I catch them with a charge.

But almost all matchups in use honor because 10 rep plus You can alternate using med/charge and conc/hammer, instead of vigor/charge, when you're dueling someone you just want to use short charges to overwhelm with hammer triangle, med on the honor stick offers a huge tool

This post was edited by Pants1 on Feb 23 2017 08:00pm

Indeed I prefer honor on libby as well. My shocker gets medi from honor, conv from foh stick, and vigor from tears if u want em. Nice for tvt

This post was edited by thesnipa on Feb 23 2017 08:21pm

the minute i find a 3/3/x medi divine foh stick my bmdin is going to be finished lmao