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Mar 10 2016 01:09pm
All realms have had their fair share of good barb players, most of whom came down from HLD or played EP back in the day and what not. By coming down from HLD, i mean the days before enigma. @eu There has never been a drought of strong FRW based barb players @ lld (or MLD). East and West lld branched off some years ago now re: telecharges. Yes telecharges was innovative but the culture of LLD on EU was such that no one really wanted to go down the teleport direction (or change any rules). As I have mentioned before I always made a point of not touching LLD rules, but @ MLD you can see that frw based characters (i.e. Barb) can win tournaments. Just because you have moved on from frw does not mean that its not viable. As you said, your so used to teleport now you cant remember frw based play, which off the top of my head, will fair better vs a trapper then a teleport based character. If WSG was so good @ EU why has there _NEVER_ been more then 2-3 Assassin players. Look the realms branched down different paths, no need for either side to say that their side is the right side (however im sure some old eu players would say your all abominations and are all going to hell) :evil:

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tbh the only thing more obnoxious than that terrible mic was your DBZ skin. it looks like someone did it in 5 minutes with paint :(


its natural d2 quality thats dumbing it down

and to someone experienced it would only take 5 minutes
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Mar 10 2016 01:13pm
It's not so much that it's frw based, more so that you guys only use frw, but don't allow wsg.... I play barb w/ 100+frw | tele| and wsg... Gotta take advantage of all that to be able to beat the chars the have the high advantage.
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All realms have had their fair share of good barb players, most of whom came down from HLD or played EP back in the day and what not. By coming down from HLD, i mean the days before enigma. @eu There has never been a drought of strong FRW based barb players @ lld (or MLD). East and West lld branched off some years ago now re: telecharges. Yes telecharges was innovative but the culture of LLD on EU was such that no one really wanted to go down the teleport direction (or change any rules). As I have mentioned before I always made a point of not touching LLD rules, but @ MLD you can see that frw based characters (i.e. Barb) can win tournaments. Just because you have moved on from frw does not mean that its not viable. As you said, your so used to teleport now you cant remember frw based play, which off the top of my head, will fair better vs a trapper then a teleport based character. If WSG was so good @ EU why has there _NEVER_ been more then 2-3 Assassin players. Look the realms branched down different paths, no need for either side to say that their side is the right side (however im sure some old eu players would say your all abominations and are all going to hell)

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Cause there are no good sins on euro.... Not like its hard anyways.

Can't see a frw barb winning very many duels.

Even with my shit ping on euro wouldn't expect a barb to get too many wins.

And on east I would never really expect it besides Enders ww locks lol
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Mar 10 2016 01:15pm
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Even your charger with 84 light resists gets messed up by sins from what I've watched.

It's literally the worst level 30 to ever duel on.

Lay traps and wait, run in circles.

Will have to l8z every trapper I duel cause whats the point of going on screen and dying.

And they have claw block to avoid hits can't even fhr them 80% of the time


ya but thats mostly cuz im b-squad not as much cuz of the char. I wholeheartedly think that someone like Bel or another good charger player could 5-0 any trapper player with regularity. I mean there's always going to be a few duels here and there where the RNG rapes you with any charger but with 20+ mdr and 84 light res its basically a hard counter. Also my setup currently has to use 1h + shield vs. trappers to stay at 84 light res, if i swap to insight its at 75 cuz i still need 1 swap charm lol. I just havent changed it because i like having the replife and extra mana that honor/spirit provides + lazy.

but yes at lvl 30 ranged i agree that trapper is as low skill of a class as there is, and comes with a built in easy button.
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ya but thats mostly cuz im b-squad not as much cuz of the char. I wholeheartedly think that someone like Bel or another good charger player could 5-0 any trapper player with regularity. I mean there's always going to be a few duels here and there where the RNG rapes you with any charger but with 20+ mdr and 84 light res its basically a hard counter. Also my setup currently has to use 1h + shield vs. trappers to stay at 84 light res, if i swap to insight its at 75 cuz i still need 1 swap charm lol. I just havent changed it because i like having the replife and extra mana that honor/spirit provides + lazy.

but yes at lvl 30 ranged i agree that trapper is as low skill of a class as there is, and comes with a built in easy button.



"Good charger player"... Charger is more simple than hdin...
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Mar 10 2016 01:17pm
ok well lets put it in perspective then. How many LLD tournaments @ east / west & EU over the last 10 years and what classes won.

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ok well lets put it in perspective then. How many LLD tournaments @ east / west & EU over the last 10 years and what classes won.



West has no tourneys.
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ok well lets put it in perspective then. How many LLD tournaments @ east / west & EU over the last 10 years and what classes won.


Euro and east will always be different, we know this.

It's a Dumb comparison in a way cause we know neither of us can duel east and euro with the same ping

But god if any frw barbs were on east they would just die....

Tele ww when implemented right can literally turn a duel sideways, especially vs sorcs and trappers and even necs or zons if they can't catch them normally frw style
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ya but thats mostly cuz im b-squad not as much cuz of the char. I wholeheartedly think that someone like Bel or another good charger player could 5-0 any trapper player with regularity. I mean there's always going to be a few duels here and there where the RNG rapes you with any charger but with 20+ mdr and 84 light res its basically a hard counter. Also my setup currently has to use 1h + shield vs. trappers to stay at 84 light res, if i swap to insight its at 75 cuz i still need 1 swap charm lol. I just havent changed it because i like having the replife and extra mana that honor/spirit provides + lazy.

but yes at lvl 30 ranged i agree that trapper is as low skill of a class as there is, and comes with a built in easy button.


Bel could not. Just saying.
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