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Mar 8 2012 10:21am
Quote (Dreamworks @ Mar 8 2012 05:09pm)
it was my 1st nl tour
and iirc it was the 1st tour when a libby wasn't allowed to use dr vs barb
so u can't compare those duels

oh and there is a difference between 1/4 blocked hits and 1/6 :rolleyes:


Well was eating before so it was a short post...

The difference is that any "decent build" paladin hdin or smite/charge(zeal) will have atleast 10k+ defense against a barb smite/charge(zeal) will have even more 12k+
For a barb to have any decent chances he will need ~~8k+ ar to get hits, without holy shield precast you take around 2/3 of the def so your down at 3-4k def and a lower block%

Also you wont be able to use damage reduction(%) So yes 1-2 hits and you are dead. How many hits do you have to land on a barb before he dies? 8? idk
I didnt like to play libby before and now i wont even think about making one :rofl:

When i started LLD/MLD i was told that Maximum block was a must on every char if you didnt have max block it was suicide to duel, what happened here? Are we breaking the golden rule
of maximum block? LOL this rule is really a joke, well atleast i dont have to watch libbys win tours anymore. Their opponent has 2x more life than them.

Like its said there isnt really any good Windy's at eusc i guess that there aint really a "gg" mld barb neither, this core is runned by paladins + sorcs + ama.

This rule will only result in lame duels imo.


Quote (harabec @ Mar 8 2012 05:15pm)
defense is ignored while charging (and running), so again this only makes a difference while casting hammers (and walking).
i haven't seen a barb win a ft5 against a good libby in a tournament.. if you have, feel free to post a reference!




kuki used 0% dr vs barb
before that, it was 15% dr and the duel results weren't close.
also last tour licio won his duels against barbs clearly.


im not playing in pubs anymore, neither tvts. I know ive seen Domi (offensive)
playing iwth a libby, i think it was named STRONKEST and domi kept winning (not 100% sure that was the libbys name but 90% sure)

2nd. usually in my experience playing and watching duels the barb hits when the libby is at a wrong angle and stands still (due to synch) so im not sure i get your point?

This post was edited by FasterA on Mar 8 2012 10:24am
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Mar 8 2012 10:40am
there is no way u can make Barb vs libby a fair duel, licio and kuki are the best libby's there are thay wont lose vs barbs even if thay cant use a shield at all. think about that
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Mar 8 2012 10:44am
Quote (Sliky @ 8 Mar 2012 18:40)
there is no way u can make Barb vs libby a fair duel, licio and kuki are the best libby's there are thay wont lose vs barbs even if thay cant use a shield at all. think about that


you are probably right, but we can try to make it less imbalanced ;)
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there is no way u can make Barb vs libby a fair duel, licio and kuki are the best libby's there are thay wont lose vs barbs even if thay cant use a shield at all. think about that


Well as you say here they are quite good at a libby, problem is there isnt really any good barb players. So its not a question about the rules rather just drop the barbs, anyways there isnt many viable builds at a 49 barb
anyways, let em die who cares?
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Mar 8 2012 10:44am
we must make a rule dev btw. and best vs best tests ofc!
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Quote (harabec @ Mar 8 2012 09:44pm)
you are probably right, but we can try to make it less imbalanced ;)


it is balanced, if u have no block on pala's eny lesser skilled libby's will lose 100%
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Mar 8 2012 10:50am
Quote (harabec @ 8 Mar 2012 17:44)
you are probably right, but we can try to make it less imbalanced ;)


but dont make it imbalanced for the char that was adv first
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Mar 8 2012 10:58am
we did that for ama vs pala (reduced DR). more radical/fundamental changes to the rules may allow us to revisit this and/or other contentious rules but at the moment, the emphasis is on giving some of the "lesser" builds more opportunities to do well.

reducing frw, reducing repl, reducing (max) resistances, all are things being considered (on Bowa).

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