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Dec 16 2010 12:33pm
Quote (Perserker[PvP] @ 16 Dec 2010 19:21)
i was told 85 fire res + fire golem is overpowered, anyways, i'm gonna go for 75 res on all chars and allow fire golem for the next tour. we'll see how it turns out.
also i ban all def auras for libbies, chargers, hammers - so all palas since we don't have any pure smiters or vts here.


i wouldn't ban vigor, at least if its not used with charge.. its essential for tvt
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i wouldn't ban vigor, at least if its not used with charge.. its essential for tvt


i don't ban vigor, just hard points in def skills. you can still get vigor from boots or scepter.
skilling vigor means skilling prayer which means huge life repl with medi.
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Quote (Perserker[PvP] @ 16 Dec 2010 19:21)
i was told 85 fire res + fire golem is overpowered, anyways, i'm gonna go for 75 res on all chars and allow fire golem for the next tour. we'll see how it turns out.
also i ban all def auras for libbies, chargers, hammers - so all palas since we don't have any pure smiters or vts here.


What is the reasoning behind that? Not that its wrong but i didn't see any arguments on that.

Just a suggestion:

Vigor+charge allowed vs Sorc/Pala

Medi allowed if no liferep from items

Also we speak on tournament rules only, right?
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Quote (BeAy @ 16 Dec 2010 20:39)
What is the reasoning behind that? Not that its wrong but i didn't see any arguments on that.

Just a suggestion:

Vigor+charge allowed vs Sorc/Pala

Medi allowed if no liferep from items

Also we speak on tournament rules only, right?


first of all, yes, those rules are for tournaments in the first place but it would be nice if tvt players would adapt to those rules, at least a little. i don't wanna see 1xx life repl def chargers there, nk, hacks or what ever there, ofc.
imo vigor charge isn't needed vs sorcs but that's just my opinion. i want to see more opinions here. also i didn't say i ban vigor, i just ban hard points in def auras. you can still use boots or scepter for vigor charge, i don't have a problem with it since you still desync with or without vigor.
medi allowed, if no hard point in prayer, meaning you get medi from scepter or weapon. with hard point in prayer, medi exceeds the life repl by far. on a normal charger, life repl with medi out was 72 iirc.

so: no hard points in def auras, getting auras from items is ok though.
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i'm unsure if allowing tele staffs on barbs vs sorcs is a good idea. could make them defwhore too much.
btw, is phys hammer on assa gm?

€: current rules for 4th tour:

General rules:

1. no hacks, intentional bug abuse, dupes, rage, flame, spam or nk.
2. no usage of pots, slowing items, knockback items, tab wands or tele staffs.
3. no jumping or precasting (going back to stash).
4. no defwhoring (repl life and/or regen mana abuse).
5. no more than 75 max res.
6. no more than 22 life repl on non-ranged, 15 life repl on ranged, 12 life repl on pala and sorc.

Char specific rules:

Necro:

7. max 5 walls per screen.
8. clay golem, decrepify, iron maiden and bone prison are banned.
9. recasting bone armor is not allowed.

Paladin:

10. no hard points in any def auras (get vigor or medi from item if needed).
11. libby, hammer, v/t and charger may not use any dr vs melee or ww.

Ama:

12. slower missiles is banned (no peace vs phys dmg chars).
13. max 150 frw on java and 120 frw on bowa.

Sorc:

14. es sorcs may not use insight, non es sorcs may use insight.

Druid:

15. tele staffs are allowed.
16. recasting cycloon armor is banned.

Barb:

17. tele staffs are allowed vs sorcs.
18. nl ww is banned.

This post was edited by Perserker[PvP] on Dec 16 2010 01:04pm
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Quote (Perserker[PvP] @ Dec 16 2010 01:02pm)
i'm unsure if allowing tele staffs on barbs vs sorcs is a good idea. could make them defwhore too much.


have to defwhore vs barb as is on a sorc.


also, your rules would make your own poison zon bm.

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15 life repl on ranged


zon has 22 auto from spirit shroud and pcrown.

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Quote (Cadagan @ 16 Dec 2010 21:03)
have to defwhore vs barb as is on a sorc.


also, your rules would make your own poison zon bm.



zon has 22 auto from spirit shroud and pcrown.


you have a better circ than pcrown on the share :)

€: oh and to all who use my shares for 4th tour, don't worry about the rules, i adapt the chars.

This post was edited by Perserker[PvP] on Dec 16 2010 01:08pm
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you have a better circ than pcrown on the share :)


Only way I would ever use a circlet over pcrown is 2OS with 24 maxers in it.

Even if I were to use circ, your amu has 8 replife.(and 5 on shield)


If replife is capped it should be ~30 for all.

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Quote (harabec @ Dec 16 2010 11:40am)
even more reason to make it a rule
if rich people need to downgrade their gear, the difference in itemquality between players gets reduced and skill becomes a more important factor in regard of duel outcome


if you want to play with all the same gear feel free to play asia 1 or 2

however, some people actually take pride in improving their chars as much as possible, they shouldn't be penalized for that
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Quote (ClanBK @ Dec 16 2010 07:10pm)
if you want to play with all the same gear feel free to play asia 1 or 2

however, some people actually take pride in improving their chars as much as possible, they shouldn't be penalized for that


nerd pride
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