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Aug 5 2010 08:54am
Quote (Dwerfs @ Aug 5 2010 04:52pm)
what is the saying... give x a piece of bread and it'll swallow your whole hand?

i don't understand the reason to ban vigor and charge. lets say i play smiter, joost play hdin and ferdia ama. joost support ama with vigor and i'm not allowed to charge? and if i do ppl like harabec will cry and claim i cheat


Now you're comparing smiter to libby, good job there.
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Quote (Demonsangel @ Aug 5 2010 03:54pm)
Now you're comparing smiter to libby, good job there.


no, i said if we 3on3 in this team it would fuck it all up...

i think it's pretty retarded to ban vigor since it can be on for various reasons and it'd just create rage. i don't think it's overpowered when i play my smiter at all, it's pretty easy to counter
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Quote (Dwerfs @ 5 Aug 2010 15:55)
no, i said if we 3on3 in this team it would fuck it all up...

i think it's pretty retarded to ban vigor since it can be on for various reasons and it'd just create rage. i don't think it's overpowered when i play my smiter at all, it's pretty easy to counter


who said ban vigor?
this topic is only about using vigor while charging (and wsg) nothing else
/and we said somewhere on page 1 or so that paladins not using foh or hammer should be allowed to vigor charge

This post was edited by harabec on Aug 5 2010 08:56am
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Aug 5 2010 08:57am
Too much euro rage. I think except for the few euro's that i've dueled, that most of euro is just bad. i would think that the average euro would get a 3 out of 10, and the synching bm dins that they are dueling are a 7 out of 10. Its a matter of superior skill, not synch.

I'm one of the best lld hammerdins/libbys on east and i lose all the time to people who are at my skill llevel on other chars. The excuse that vigor charge to synch is why you are losing all the time is not a valid one.
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Aug 5 2010 08:58am
Quote (harabec @ Aug 5 2010 03:56pm)
who said ban vigor?
this topic is only about using vigor while charging (and wsg) nothing else
/and we said somewhere on page 1 or so that paladins not using foh or hammer should be allowed to vigor charge


YOU said it lol, noone else cared.

if you want that example, what about a 2 libby-1ama team? u can't support ama with vigor cuz friedn charges...

i dont even understand the reason why this thread is needed. people cried about it before yet it remained perfectly allowed...
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Aug 5 2010 09:03am
Quote (Dwerfs @ 5 Aug 2010 15:58)
YOU said it lol, noone else cared.

if you want that example, what about a 2 libby-1ama team? u can't support ama with vigor cuz friedn charges...

i dont even understand the reason why this thread is needed. people cried about it before yet it remained perfectly allowed...


well yea in this particular situation paladin A can't charge around when paladin B gives him vigor... but situations like this are unlikely to come up and it wouldn't be the only situation where 2 rules collide - for example char A (lets say necro) uses insight and his team mate char B is an ES sorc

bottom line: vigor is allowed unless a paladin is charging while having vigor as aura.

This post was edited by harabec on Aug 5 2010 09:04am
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Quote (harabec @ Aug 5 2010 05:03pm)
well yea in this particular situation paladin A can't charge around when paladin B gives him vigor... but situations like this are unlikely to come up and it wouldn't be the only situation where 2 rules collide - for example char  A (lets say necro) uses insight and his team mate char B is an ES sorc


Lets not forget we're talking about Tour duels not neccesarily TvT.
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Quote (Demonsangel @ 5 Aug 2010 16:04)
Lets not forget we're talking about Tour duels not neccesarily TvT.


yea but we hope to have tvt tours as well :)
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Aug 5 2010 09:06am
i banned vigor charge in 1 tournament, there was'nt a (too) big (an) issue around it. i dont mind banning it for the next tournament, it just means longer duels.
i dont plan on banning wsg ever.

i didn't vote.
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Quote (harabec @ Aug 5 2010 04:05pm)
yea but we hope to have tvt tours as well :)


tvt is different from tours... you should know that as we told you taht but you keep claiming rules are there for tvts too, but ferdia shut you up sayinge verything reasonable... then you cried about my 2.3k foh lol
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