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[QUOTE=Perserker[PvP],Dec 26 2009 06:09am][QUOTE=gobb,26 Dec 2009 05:12][QUOTEQuote (Perserker[PvP)],Dec 25 2009 07:25pm]actually 10 fhr 20 life 10 life repl adds boots beat sanders.

1. you don't stat for sanders since you wanna use hots/infernos
2. you only lose 100 ar, this isn't really much since most chars you fight have low ar and if you do need ar, you can use angelics.

also eth insight partizans are cheap and very, very effective =)
also2 mdr doesn't help that much (except for mdr bug) so string < str life mana res belts when dr isn't needed.[/QUOTE]

1. I just lost respect for you if you use (or need hots)
2. 100ar x 500% is a fair bit, but no not really needed. I would never use angelics, I use stat rings to save life, and I'd also lose 160ish mana. Plus, I have 9k ar without them.

You also lose 45life without sanders

See belt:
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fhr 20 life 10 life repl > 45 life

€: lol njaguar fucked up d2jsp, quote doesn't work anymore.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but imo it's not worth losing the life vs all the other people you duel. I rarely if ever have a duel over 2min, therefore sanders > . If you duel really lame and defensive fhr/20/10's are > but thats not my style.
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straightforward and informative

10/10
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I've made a lot of improovements since the guide, I may make a version 2
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Quote (DImported @ Oct 12 2009 09:48am)
is fhr a problem when using insight/lp?

and what do you use on switch?


yah it is a problem.. trappers will quickly eat you up if you try and use insight on them
the only thing i would change is the shield, why crown? might as well use akaran rondache, or targe since you have 140 str

Goblin Toes - I don’t recommend it personally but you could also use goblin toes for crushing blow, however your life and ar will take a big hit.

45 life + 100 ar

for 25 cb... worth it in my opinion.

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Dec 26 2009 05:38pm
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yah it is a problem.. trappers will quickly eat you up if you try and use insight on them
the only thing i would change is the shield, why crown? might as well use akaran rondache, or targe since you have 140 str


crown requires less dex for MB.

and I've never had problems with trappers while using zero fhr and insight vs them.

/e goblin toe, definately not worth it, unless you end up smiting more than charging in a certain duel

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crown requires less dex for MB.

and I've never had problems with trappers while using zero fhr and insight vs them.

/e goblin toe, definately not worth it, unless you end up smiting more than charging in a certain duel

idk why you would be smiting with your charger...

maybe euro trappers are more nasty with mind blast then the trappers you duel. euro trappers dont move, they just stand there in their traps, if you go in with zero fhr you dont survive 5 seconds vs insanely fast ias mind blast. chargers are supposed to be like glass cannon bow zons, finishing duels in 1-2 charges. maybe 3 if needed. my charger has 10k ar one handed without sanders. is more really needed?

doesnt having more defence on a shield = more chances to block attacks? id rather have insane block then life
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idk why you would be smiting with your charger...

maybe euro trappers are more nasty with mind blast then the trappers you duel. euro trappers dont move, they just stand there in their traps, if you go in with zero fhr you dont survive 5 seconds vs insanely fast ias mind blast. chargers are supposed to be like glass cannon bow zons, finishing duels in 1-2 charges. maybe 3 if needed. my charger has 10k ar one handed without sanders. is more really needed?

doesnt having more defence on a shield = more chances to block attacks? id rather have insane block then life


defense only changes the percentage for getting hit, block is determined by the shield type, character lvl, dexterity (and if there is ay +% block)

crown shields have the most % block out of the other choices, the defense does not matter.
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defense only changes the percentage for getting hit, block is determined by the shield type, character lvl, dexterity (and if there is ay +% block)

crown shields have the most % block out of the other choices, the defense does not matter.


ahh ok, how defence does somebody need before i cant hit them anymore with 10k AR and 4k charge
like 50k defence?
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idk why you would be smiting with your charger...

maybe euro trappers are more nasty with mind blast then the trappers you duel. euro trappers dont move, they just stand there in their traps, if you go in with zero fhr you dont survive 5 seconds vs insanely fast ias mind blast. chargers are supposed to be like glass cannon bow zons, finishing duels in 1-2 charges. maybe 3 if needed. my charger has 10k ar one handed without sanders. is more really needed?

doesnt having more defence on a shield = more chances to block attacks? id rather have insane block then life


I am euro non ladder and I won the previous lvl 30 tour with my charger ^_^ If you die in 5 secs, you should revise your pala lol.

More AR is certainly not needed. I'm using ~ 6 k on average. I suppose you're using Angelics?

And chargers are supposed to end it in a few blows, yet not be a low life glasscannon.

and that def statement has already been corrected
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ahh ok, how defence does somebody need before i cant hit them anymore with 10k AR and 4k charge
like 50k defence?


lol 10k

you don't need more ar, you need less
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