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Jan 19 2009 09:04pm
Quote (Energy_Orb @ Tue, Jan 20 2009, 03:01am)
Same. With insane dmg for no dmg aura?


yuh it looks neat
i hate how conc barbs can get like 3k defense though sad.gif
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Jan 19 2009 09:12pm
I think i saw roy's with like 5.9k
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with ur setup there, you have a 6% better chance to hit me than i do you...

ill do the calcs or at least set it up for jerk

and ur fpa is what? im guessing 6fpa... it would be really close.

ur average pvp dmg is 156 whereas mine is 141


i have 1074life now that i have my potion q's done

1074/156 dmg taken

905life/141 dmg taken

you have a 20% chance to hit me with 444 def

i have a 14% chance to hit you with 1572 def

i have 5fpa you have 6fpa.

This post was edited by starcreaft453 on Jan 19 2009 09:24pm
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Quote (meitou @ Mon, Jan 19 2009, 02:05pm)
A zealer who focus on zeal pumps up sacrifice for it's 12% synergy for zeal, instead of pumping up might.
A typical cleg/twitch zealer has this skill layout: 18 sac, 7zeal, 1 smite, 1 charge, 1 might, 1 blessed aim.
Switching from lvl1 might to ba, you lose 40%ED; switching from lvl3 conc to ba, you lose 90%ED. Thus you lose whatever marginal damage gain by using a 3zeal/3conc ws over cleg, if not more.


ahhh nice, 18sac, 7zeal, 1 might is 234% zeal, 40%might , 75%ar
yes, agree,,, this is a smart idea if u want to build without gear switching.

i still suspect even with this setup a 3zeal, 3conc ws is equal though.

274%ed+65+55,] = 394% probably enough to make the clegs dmg start to really shine with full GC setup but the life approach still needs to be adressed before as noted the setup put the WS 8-12% more effective.
170 pvp 824 life VS a 146pvp 1074life setup


Quote (meitou @ Mon, Jan 19 2009, 06:29pm)
<b>I have a defense build on east.  it's doing 12/6/6/6/6 zeal
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hmm 30% deadly, 3.47 attacks/sec

star u dont have 5fpa u have 5/5/5/5/10 (4.26 attack/sec)
http://diablo3.ingame.de/tips/calcs/speedcalc_titanseal/speedcalc_english.php

DPS; taking into account CTH%
MEI= .81% cth *.25(hit) * 104avg *1.3ds% *3.47attack/sec =
STAR = .55% cth *.25(hit) * 141avg * 4.16attack/sec =

mei dps = .2025 * 135.2 *3.47 = 95.00166
mei dps = .1375 * 586.56 = 80.652

mei 905 / 80.652 = 11.22 seconds till death
star 1074 / 95.00166 =11.3 seconds till death

and as u can see, very close... but i usualy take speed anyway so i like the 5/5/5/5/10 fundementally
again shows stars build marginally outlasts,(not to mention cold+magic a single nagel can negate another 2-3pvp per hit but thats nit picky)

since 1.09 life became 42% more powerful. 25% ->17% pvp, it even plagues me, i keep forgetting how important life functions since 1.10.

This post was edited by Jerkazoid on Jan 19 2009 10:32pm
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Jan 19 2009 11:13pm
azure is 50% ds. so the numbers should be:

DPS; taking into account CTH%
MEI= .81% cth *.25(hit) * 104avg *1.5ds% *3.47attack/sec = .2025 * 156 *3.47 =109.617
STAR = .55% cth *.25(hit) * 141avg * 4.16attack/sec = .1375 * 586.56 = 80.652

mei 905 / 80.652 = 11.22 seconds till death
star 1074 / 109.617=9.798 seconds till death

Seems my build is winning out about 15%.

Also, switching to nagel ring would -432 AR on Star's build, which is not a good idea vs defense char.

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azure is 50% ds. so the numbers should be:

DPS; taking into account CTH%
MEI= .81% cth *.25(hit) * 104avg *1.5ds% *3.47attack/sec = .2025 * 156 *3.47 =109.617
STAR = .55% cth *.25(hit) * 141avg * 4.16attack/sec = .1375 * 586.56 = 80.652

mei 905 / 80.652 = 11.22 seconds till death
star 1074 / 109.617=9.798 seconds till death

Seems my build is winning out about 15%.

Also, switching to nagel ring would -432 AR on Star's build, which is not a good idea vs defense char.




tempting to see what ur gear is to get that high of dmg without aura.

6max/ar/20life gcs and 10x 15/8def scs?
20max everything?

ill rebuild my def zealot and see how it matches up vs urs but i think urs is pretty well perfectly built

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Jan 20 2009 10:26am
50%? ok i got my stats from diii.net
it listed 30% 1.08 stats. sorry for not fact checking that

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50%? ok i got my stats from diii.net
it listed 30% 1.08 stats. sorry for not fact checking that


Oh it was 30% in 1.08? Didn't know that.

Thanks for all the math. biggrin.gif

I made a mistake too: switching to 1 nagel ring would lower star's AR for about 300 only, since the nagel has maximum 75AR too.
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Jan 20 2009 11:16am
Quote (meitou @ Tue, Jan 20 2009, 09:07am)
Oh it was 30% in 1.08? Didn't know that.

Thanks for all the math. biggrin.gif

I made a mistake too: switching to 1 nagel ring would lower star's AR for about 300 only, since the nagel has maximum 75AR too.


actually i dont know, i cant seem to find a reliable source.. either it was 30% or 50% i dont know anymore. and i dont know if diii.net is wrong or not :/

the azure was a nice piece back then.. sadly on ladder its not a possibility
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Jan 20 2009 11:39am
I think .08 is 50 and .09 is 30, it could be the other way around.
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