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Jul 23 2021 03:06pm
I have about 20 minutes. Wanna get some duels in. making

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Quote (MADIrishGunner @ 23 Jul 2021 13:50)
back in the days of 18 melee tourneys there was actually some very strong ele kick sins, jab zons, etc. not just conc and cc zeal or defiance zeal, and in those tourneys defiance zeal always out performed the cookie cutter ones.

and these days in the non ladder community atleast you see more barbs at 18 melee than you see anything else, so id rather go blind into a game now on defiance zeal tbh. unless i had access to cotas cc zeal which i do, and then like i said im actually curious to see if that could out perform defiance zealers at the top end.



Pretty sure asylum still has an 18 defiance zealer on his account so maybe Sunday or something we can do 100x duels
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Jul 23 2021 06:31pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Jul 23 2021 07:50pm)
Pretty sure asylum still has an 18 defiance zealer on his account so maybe Sunday or something we can do 100x duels


we could run some duels with that defiance zealer vs cotas barb, and then defiance zealer vs cotas zealer. if we could get a 3rd guy involved we could test some other matchups too.

im honestly curious tho because cota has a 1 of a kind helm that really does make a huge difference.
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we could run some duels with that defiance zealer vs cotas barb, and then defiance zealer vs cotas zealer. if we could get a 3rd guy involved we could test some other matchups too.

im honestly curious tho because cota has a 1 of a kind helm that really does make a huge difference.


Didn’t he say he uses sigon helm a few posts ago
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Jul 23 2021 07:09pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Jul 23 2021 08:06pm)
Didn’t he say he uses sigon helm a few posts ago


it looks like sigons lmao was a joke.


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Jul 23 2021 07:12pm
3soc helm >

Lol not sure what kyu is talking bout, those have only been better for style points
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I’d 1-ww this irl
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Jul 23 2021 07:33pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Jul 23 2021 08:31pm)
I’d 1-ww this irl


don't threaten me with a good time

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Quote (Avenged321 @ Jul 23 2021 09:12pm)
3soc helm >

Lol not sure what kyu is talking bout, those have only been better for style points



Holy shit you are actually an idiot, nice.

on an AR based build, the 18% ar on level from this helm alone can add upwards of 700 to ur atk rating, so you lose 15 max dmg and like 200 atk rating but gain 700, plus his helm has 30 base atk rating ontop of that which would gain you back that 200 atk rating youd lose.

you're not beating a conc barb without atleast a 2os viso on CC zeal, or defiance zeal, they both use these...

not to mention this is the literal best 2os viso for 18 i've ever seen.. shit its even eth rep and 3% from perf defense..

This post was edited by MADIrishGunner on Jul 23 2021 07:42pm
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Quote (MADIrishGunner @ 23 Jul 2021 19:36)
Holy shit you are actually an idiot, nice.

on an AR based build, the 18% ar on level from this helm alone can add upwards of 700 to ur atk rating, so you lose 15 max dmg and like 200 atk rating but gain 700, plus his helm has 30 base atk rating ontop of that which would gain you back that 200 atk rating youd lose.

you're not beating a conc barb without atleast a 2os viso on CC zeal, or defiance zeal, they both use these...

not to mention this is the literal best 2os viso for 18 i've ever seen.. shit its even eth rep and 3% from perf defense..


Do you think it’s better than an erep/viso/2os/100+ def/ctc frost Nova crown? Cause there’s a couple of those on east I believe. Guess it depends how you value the base ar vs the frost Nova and small defense boost
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