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Flat DR is calculated first, not %.

Based on your 400 smite dmg....

68-40 (5 sol+ rockfleece dr) = 28. X 25% (soe and Rockfleece.) =7. Comes out 21 pvp damage.

68-35(5 sol)= 33 x 15% (soe)= 4.95. Let's call it 5. This comes out to about 28 pvp damage.

So yes, it is around 7 damage difference per smite. Yeah, meegz1 was off by 1 damage, so be it. He was still right more or less

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

This post was edited by Markhor on Aug 29 2019 04:49am

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#73

Aug 29 2019 05:38am

I personally dislike paladins, but lets face it: it's 2019.

If this guy can manage to get people playing the game again (even if its in some odd, one-build-only league); then all the power to him imo.

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Aug 29 2019 05:52am

Quote (meegz1 @ Aug 28 2019 04:46pm)

snipa has already illustrated every bit of the point i was going to make. for two guys who don't (currently) have v/t's, we sure do think a lot alike concerning them. its almost like each of us could say 'been there, done that, heres the issues' it appears.

also, imprecise language just annoys me when i can see you obviously have a limit in mind for what you consider hard mitigation vs acceptable/balanced/whatever mitigation. consider it my attempt to get you to a state where everyone else here has less shit to pick at you for, because its pretty obvious you have a desire to do shit that makes sense, you just dont have a very good track record on expressing yourself effectively.

/e: i would also strongly suggest limiting LR stack, and offensive charges. snipa and worrywart are both right.

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Aug 29 2019 06:02am

Quote (danzeva @ Aug 28 2019 09:12pm)

https://i.postimg.cc/ZRt2RRb3/dr-flat.jpg

The answer is no...

Listen, if you can't even figure out the order of operations on pvp damage in D2 it might be a good idea to hand off the rule making to someone else for this.

Quote (lld_mayhem @ Aug 29 2019 07:38am)

True. But, when he asks for ideas and suggestions instead of just putting up a ladder thread...he's going to get ideas and suggestions.

This post was edited by meegz1 on Aug 29 2019 06:03am

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#76

Aug 29 2019 06:29am

Quote (meegz1 @ Aug 29 2019 08:02am)

Listen, if you can't even figure out the order of operations on pvp damage in D2 it might be a good idea to hand off the rule making to someone else for this.

True. But, when he asks for ideas and suggestions instead of just putting up a ladder thread...he's going to get ideas and suggestions.

I agree, and i wasn't aiming my comment at you personally. I was addressing the "Looool v/t comments"

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#77

Aug 29 2019 07:08am

There's what, 4 (active) VTs on NL?

Wouldnt be much of a ladder imo

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Aug 29 2019 07:57am

Quote (Markhor @ Aug 29 2019 08:08am)

There's what, 4 (active) VTs on NL?

Wouldnt be much of a ladder imo

v/ts active atm

Me/Jack/Danzeva/D2jacks/Kyushu

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#79

Aug 29 2019 07:58am

wait so for a 1200 life v/t it takes about 60 smites to kill the other smiter at 21 pvp dmg per smite.

yeah, you need to find a way to lower light res or this wont just be walk smite it will be 10 min long walk smite.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 29 2019 08:04am

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Aug 29 2019 08:05am

Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 29 2019 08:58am)

wait so for a 1200 life v/t it takes about 60 smites to kill the other smiter at 21 pvp dmg per smite.

yeah, you need to find a way to lower light rest or this wont just be walk smite it will be 10 min long walk smite.

im assuming this # is w/o crushing blow, most v/ts run 35% crushing blow, on avg i think it takes me no more than 15 smites to kill 1200 life char

havent really counted that tho, and plus it would change because of cb variable.

i like the idea of what hes trying, but i just dont see it happening, not enough interest in the v/t char for lld , as a community , and it plays alot diff than hld from what i've been told..

ill give props to dan for tying,

i've been meaning to attempt to set up a lvl 30 melee ladder now for a while,

but with how my schedule is and the times i get to duel, it would make it hard for me to even play the ladder i create..

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