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Jan 8 2016 11:15am
i could put you on any 30 you wanted and i can arrange for you to go on a 18 as well. pm'd.
Rule discussion topic's generally fail since there are too many vested interests coming at it. the best solution is to get a core 3-4 players and agree privately as to what will be done.
also re: "in tvt/fun duels common sense is fine, but when hosting a tour you get some players taking it serious and will build any char to win and any little gap in the rules they will take full advantage of"
i can attest to that!
competition is fine, but really most of us just want fun.

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Jan 8 2016 11:36am
Quote (Riox @ Jan 8 2016 04:51pm)
(except andy and frank cuz they can never beat me)


Emm we have a rule about no lying on EU too btw. You just happen to be the only char I can beat these days.

Well as it stands I've always assumed the rules in Johann's topic were the current 18 rules on EU and as such my zealot is built to suit them. In the last tour there were a couple of zealots yet it was 3 bowas and a thrower in the semi finals. There is only so much one can even out things without going into a big list of class specific rules. Like Sa_Se and Textbook said, avoiding 1 hit potential and catching overly defensive play are the main ones.

Ima buy a few tokens tonight and go for some zealot builds within each rule using typical cookie cutter gear (60max helm, 80max shield, 20max clegs, 20max twitch). One 1pt might/conc/charge and charge with aura vs 1pt charge, max might and chage with no aura. Will post the stats. Whatever the outcome, smiters and libbys should be untouched. Some argue that they are little more than (sometimes not so) weak chargers but regardless they don't have the potentially large close and ranged damage of a zeal/charge.

I don't expect much of a difference between the two main zeal builds mentioned in 1v1 to be honest. The main time a max might build would outperform is if it was paired with a bowa in tvt where one could argue it would be op.

On a personal note I have always found zeal/sac heavy builds more difficult than might heavy ones.
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Jan 8 2016 01:24pm
i wanna play aswell

lvl 30 ama, ill send you the money

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The rules for this tournament will not change - as it is too late, and they've already been changed once over a month ago.


Over 17 characters are already signed up! Look forward to getting a dozen or more before Monday night! :)

/e not counting my own, of course

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My chars info

account/character name/build:

lvl18
mongolito3/La_Pompeuse

lvl30
mongolito3/Bite_DeFer/V/T
mongolito3/Bite_EnFer/ww barb

i send fg soon

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Jan 9 2016 03:08pm
So according to the lvl30 rules the only way to get vigor is tearhaunch or a scepter with vigor?

Chargers cant use goblin toe and vigor, and a libby cant use sanders if he wants vigor on spirit side for example?

/e or in my example my libby has insight on switch 0rep, and only 1 soj (so level 2 prayer) and no medi on any switch that has rep, but its not allowed?

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So according to the lvl30 rules the only way to get vigor is tearhaunch or a scepter with vigor?

Chargers cant use goblin toe and vigor, and a libby cant use sanders if he wants vigor on spirit side for example?

/e or in my example my libby has insight on switch 0rep, and only 1 soj (so level 2 prayer) and no medi on any switch that has rep, but its not allowed?


1 pt is fine, just no skilling into it (other than pre req). You already know this :P
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Quote (Textbook @ Jan 9 2016 09:35pm)
1 pt is fine, just no skilling into it (other than pre req). You already know this :P


Ah phew. I panicked when I read prayer may not be skilled. Asked someone else and they didnt know either hehe.

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Jan 9 2016 04:29pm
Sure are a bunch of stupid fucking rules.
Have to guarantee you win?
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Jan 9 2016 04:43pm
most of those rules are agreed across all realms for a decade but its ok if you want attention. here have a cookie.
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