(1) Fb will still be >Blizz, 80 res blizz will keep dying in a single mistake. Each fb is 340 damage after first hit (0 mana in 1 hit). Playing without ES isn't viable, 3 random fbs and blizz is dead while blizz needs 7 random blizzs or more.

(2) 300 res 1 raven looks like a good step to start with.

(3) Bowas will keep winning the next tournaments, reducing frw won't change anything. They got autowin in 95% of their matches.

(4) Any non-mentally retarded barb will 5-0 libbys while eating an ice-cream.

(5) I needed 90 mins to 5-1 Harabec 2 tours ago. He managed to catch me in 4 rounds I think, but he hadn't luck or didn't ww me properly so I was still alive. In 1 of them I died in 1 ww. Anyways, Harabec has ony lost to 1 sorc (me) as barb in all the tours he played, statistics talk by themselves.

(6) Druid is a char with 0% chance to success under these rules. If u are a druid, just sell it and make an amazon.

(7) Psv + foh would 5-0 any char except amazon if paladin isn't retarded.

I dont agree with u, a nice baba can win vs fb sorc with less than 40% block, it's like 1ww



can u read my mind? I will not sleep this night

This post was edited by Tornazzo on Mar 8 2012 08:46am

Why bother with all those resistance rules? Just ban sorcs or the most popular skills on sorcs. Sorcs are misplaced in lld/mld anyway.

i must admit i giggled at lam3r's post.

i have limited time, i agree with alot of what he said (increase fire res on blizz is the alternative).

reductions in FRW mean that barb/sorc/java and dudu willallhave an increased change at catching bowa. i disagree on your barb statement, apart from the recent final between harabec and dreamworks, libbies have eaten libbies.

(5) I needed 90 mins to 5-1 Harabec 2 tours ago. He managed to catch me in 4 rounds I think, but he hadn't luck or didn't ww me properly so I was still alive. In 1 of them I died in 1 ww. Anyways, Harabec has ony lost to 1 sorc (me) as barb in all the tours he played, statistics talk by themselves.

whatever the res limits where then, should not be increase obviously.

re: dudu, trying to make changes but alot of people have vested interests so its hard to get agreement.

everone note his comments re: passive charge with v/t.

reduce bowa fire resistance from 85 to 80. that should knock % wins down for bowa.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 8 2012 09:08am

you wont notice any difference in 16 vs 25 % block
the 48% block when standing/casting is intended so that paladin can't tank

regarding my duel vs dreamworks: i don't mean to be offensive but he's just bad. paladin with hammer + psv just has to play focused and a barb will have no chance at all. even without psv it is very hard to beat a libby because it does ~750dmg so 6hits are enough to kill a barb, while barb needs ~8 hits (including block 75%block) and that's without even considering chance to hit.
/my result vs kukifbk: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=50347570&f=143&p=337198663
and you can also check barb vs libby results throughout previous tournaments. i don't recall any good libby (lee, licio, kuki) losing vs a barb.

regarding my duel vs lamer: it was 275%cr and i had 30repl. takes a while to kill barb, but the only alternative is to reduce res and allow tele which nobody wants. btw: there were 3 rounds where i did 1 hit.. and some more which were blocked though. in 1 of those 3 rounds i managed to do 1 more hit that got him stuck for additional hits which lead to win. but i didn't kill with 1 ww.

psv on v/t is banned vs melees & sorc. ama & necro are superior in range which means foh alone won't help there. assa is also nearly impossible to beat with wb + tg ( i won 5-1? or so vs pate with my asn in some tour). so there's not really an issue there.

regarding fb vs blizz: i removed raven from sorc so that should at least give a boost to blizz

This post was edited by harabec on Mar 8 2012 09:58am

let this topic die and make a new tour topic with the right rules.
then discuss new rules in another thread. so everyone can take part.

This post was edited by i_ecca on Mar 8 2012 09:42am

theres no need to let the topic die, i would see that as shying away from ppl's concerns. better to address them here and now then drag it out. not much else to say atm, need to actually look ingame before i can comment further...

If theres no holy shield the paladin will have really low defense and the barb wont need high attack rating, this would imo make the barb an even more powerfull than it already is, any good barb should be able to kill a hdin.




your just saying that because you payed for the topic

This post was edited by FasterA on Mar 8 2012 10:08am

it was my 1st nl tour
and iirc it was the 1st tour when a libby wasn't allowed to use dr vs barb
so u can't compare those duels

oh and there is a difference between 1/4 blocked hits and 1/6

This post was edited by Dreamworks on Mar 8 2012 10:10am

defense is ignored while charging (and running), so again this only makes a difference while casting hammers (and walking).
i haven't seen a barb win a ft5 against a good libby in a tournament.. if you have, feel free to post a reference!




kuki used 0% dr vs barb
before that, it was 15% dr and the duel results weren't close.
also last tour licio won his duels against barbs clearly.

This post was edited by harabec on Mar 8 2012 10:15am