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Feb 15 2023 10:30am
Quote (MedicatedAF @ Feb 14 2023 08:05am)
No crushing blow, like goblin toe boots are not allowed.


Crushing blow isn't the primary concern. Barb should be using Sanders vs Nec/Trapper to "stick." If you stick, you prevent them to switch to tele staff/tele away. If they can't evade you, you will inflict more damage. Mobile barbs that hit medium hard are much more dangerous than slow barbs that hit really hard.

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Feb 15 2023 11:44am
I've decided I'm not going to bring my laptop with on our vacation so I'm going to back out. Have fun fellas!
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Feb 15 2023 11:30am)
Crushing blow isn't the primary concern. Barb should be using Sanders vs Nec/Trapper to "stick." If you stick, you prevent them to switch to tele staff/tele away. If they can't evade you, you will inflict more damage. Mobile barbs that hit medium hard are much more dangerous than slow barbs that hit really hard.


I would agree with this for nec, but on trap sins; you can just use more frw since you also have access to skill speed and can drop way more lifers in your inventory than the barb can before you melt him. Barb will only out speed you if you're being greedy with life SCS. I think that matchup is just a skill issue for trapper. Particularly when you consider trap dmg at the moment lol. Generally speaking though, I think name lock WW with high frw is too strong and lazy. Much like shift charge. It's so easy to tele and keep clicking the middle of your screen to stay on them until they're dead. Not nearly as skill based as 2.3 barb who had to really think of their WW patterns in order to secure their kills.
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Quote (h1phop @ Feb 15 2023 06:44pm)
I've decided I'm not going to bring my laptop with on our vacation so I'm going to back out. Have fun fellas!


bad decision lol
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Feb 15 2023 02:38pm
Also, to everyone who isn't able to make this one, the next one will take place earlier in the day, likely on a Saturday. Ideally this will allow players from other regions to have a similar chance at getting points.
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Quote (Skrl @ Feb 15 2023 02:12pm)
I would agree with this for nec, but on trap sins; you can just use more frw since you also have access to skill speed and can drop way more lifers in your inventory than the barb can before you melt him. Barb will only out speed you if you're being greedy with life SCS. I think that matchup is just a skill issue for trapper. Particularly when you consider trap dmg at the moment lol. Generally speaking though, I think name lock WW with high frw is too strong and lazy. Much like shift charge. It's so easy to tele and keep clicking the middle of your screen to stay on them until they're dead. Not nearly as skill based as 2.3 barb who had to really think of their WW patterns in order to secure their kills.


I haven’t ran the numbers on frw loss from sanders vs frw gain from charms + gores. However core concept is the same in that a mobile barb that sticks is much more dangerous than one who simply hit hard but is slow and gets kited.

Another tricky thing is that new leap avoids traps. Barb can now survive through trap field much easier now than before by leveraging leap at right times. Once trap field is gone, trapper must place new traps (pausing to do so) and evade ww at the same time. If barb is smart and mobile, they will capitalize on this.

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I haven’t ran the numbers on frw loss from sanders vs frw gain from charms + gores. However core concept is the same in that a mobile barb that sticks is much more dangerous than one who simply hit hard but is slow and gets kited.

Another tricky thing is that new leap avoids traps. Barb can now survive through trap field much easier now than before by leveraging leap at right times. Once trap field is gone, trapper must place new traps (pausing to do so) and evade ww at the same time. If barb is smart and mobile, they will capitalize on this.


Leap is only allowed vs sorc in this tournament, so that's a non issue here. There's also no cube buff and no trap dmg cap. I think that match up will be competitive now.
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Leap is only allowed vs sorc in this tournament, so that's a non issue here. There's also no cube buff and no trap dmg cap. I think that match up will be competitive now.


Good call on rules
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Feb 15 2023 05:47pm)
Good call on rules


Ty :thumbsup:

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Quote (Rawcore @ Feb 15 2023 04:38pm)
Unfortunately due to timezone difference i wouldn't be able to make this one but hopefully next time gl everyone :thumbsup:


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