there are methods to perm dupe things, or there were. sojs were massively perm mass duped in the past.
you don't really believe that anyone would sell self found sojs for 5 fg a piece if there were no duped ones? on euro you get perm dupes for 5 fg each and they don't poof but they also aren't self found.

are you actually stupid? you can't perm dupe since ages lol


sojs are cheap because of the massive botting.

i know A LOT of people who run xx bots, some even run xxx bots.

my sojs i used was actually "nicked" from a friends old ladder mules where he put the stuff he mfed over the ladder.

so yes, tehy were legit selffound.

actually stupidity has nothing to do with knowledge. does the fact that you think so make you stupid?
even if they cannot be duped anymore, they are still out there. does that make them legit? does botting items make them legit?

This post was edited by Perserker[PvP] on Oct 26 2010 09:14am

botted items are legit, yes.


"so i guess the sojs on that sorc were found by yourself then? since you don't buy dupes.

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this was the thing i rpelied to, cba quote all etc etc

sure they're out there, if it was possible to perm dupe items (like you said it is) perm bb/etc wouldn't cost as much as it do today.

dupes aren't legit. perm dupes aren't legit, they're perm though.

great guide

botted items are not legit, since bots are not legit.

So botted items are duped or unperm?

Nice way to spam Mikey's guide btw..

Didnt read it all but seems like a decent guide.

yet again, i'll say it

its impossible to tell if most items have been botted, so the best way to not deal with them is to not buy from people you know bot.

the point that is trying to be made is that those of us who care about unlegit items TRY TO GO OUT OF OUR WAY to get things that have the least likely chance of being unlegit. which is why we trade within our own little circles so much.

i personally have quite a few perm duped items, and used to have more than you would think possible, since i was one helping with the duping back in .09

but i dont use them on my llds, because its an issue of pride that i've got nothing (to my knowledge, nor to those who i bought from) botted or duped on any lld i own

nice guide mikey

it's all about gear man. like both my main head have 17fhr, 24fhr lifer rep belt, 10 on swap boots
fcr belt is 10fcr-17fhr-5rep-2str-10regen, bfist, sc, I even have a 12fhr mana gc for one set up
All just depends on what i need for the duel.

I've been playing around a lot with 56fhr going for over 1,100.
but most of the time 86 is needed at 30, I would use 56 on my 18 but 86 is so easy to get at that level esp with fhr belt and base on head might as well just use it.
I do use a 12-33 for a swap set up to keep it though.