Quote (HellsArmory @ Tue, Oct 13 2009, 11:30am)

I would agree. When dueling well equiped barbs that know how to duel, I dont think I would ever win ft5 on my charger. Would have to be lucky to even win 1.

I am currently remaking my charger to be more verstile by going with a c/t build. Using foh/conv honor divine on one switch, and sometimes insight, sometimes med honor divine on other switch (if block is needed/wanted on both switchs). Against ww, I will prolly switch to mostly foh gear and try to avoid ww's while waiting for the barb to run out of mana (which is rare on east lad cause most chug gallon size mana pots), and then charging some.

However, I am still looking for a nice pair of harpoons that I could use on a pure charger switch for range. With 30 ias, and decent dmg, these can actually be quite useful on switch when facing chars that are hard to charge (mainly ele druids if they have summons). A while back before I had decent charms and kinda crappy javas (not even 100 max dmg, but 30 ias and some other nice mods) I was doing around 1200 throw dmg on switch. With a decent charm setup, and a nice pair of 100+ dmg 30 ias harpoons, you could get some nice throw damage.

Quote (breakbeatz2 @ Tue, Oct 13 2009, 01:53pm)

Lots of good discussion to read here, and since I basically never duel anymore it's nice to read up on strats. It looks like the dueling skill in LLD has come a long way. I noticed this quote though:



I would think that sojs would actually give you a very nice mana boost.

Quote (breakbeatz2 @ Tue, Oct 13 2009, 08:53pm)

I would think that sojs would actually give you a very nice mana boost.

Quote (Ass_Hat @ Tue, Oct 13 2009, 02:02pm)

Considering you wont have much mana from gear/charms on a charger, rare rings should give you more than sojs. Sojs arent a bad option, especially, i suppose, if you are a regen charger, but i prefer rares. Lets not forget that the lit damage on SoJs will trigger the MDR bug (not very noticeable on a charger though), which is something to consider.

Quote (gobb @ Tue, Oct 13 2009, 04:53pm)

As David pointed out, diddn't adding ~50 extra stats for 118dex (or a little less if eth) hurt your life quite a bit? I'd suggest war Javs but they do like half the damage. That would be a good idea for killing summons though..

What's your chargers name btw? I haven't been on d2 much lately (mainly due to starting university) but when I was on a lot this summer I diddn't see many chargers....

Quote (gobb @ Tue, Oct 13 2009, 08:56pm)

Due to low starting mana, I've found 80+ mana on 2 rare rings acctually give more than 2soj's. Plus you gain more ar, stats, and/or life.

Quote (WarlocksDad @ Tue, Oct 13 2009, 04:47pm)

this is now stickied, thanks Newstyle.

Quote (exxo @ Tue, Oct 13 2009, 04:33pm)

but sojs = n1 crit no?

Quote (exxo @ Tue, Oct 13 2009, 07:41pm)

Lets suppose in this case ar become irrelevant
8k is more than enough to hit almost every LLD
so with the soj's you lose 50ish life and some mana
but you gain more damage(from +2 charge/+2might) right?
mdr bug is irrelevant aswell, for a 30 charger atleast.
You can swap on res/life sc's for specific duels.
I dunno, i just like the soj/nice rare amulet combination
esp if regen