this is incorrect

rich people with lots of money can afford to take risks poor people can not

you would be correct if every build had access to the exact same amount of life and mana. however. and then i would agree with you

This post was edited by HuntingTreasure on Nov 23 2021 09:10am

I don't even know how to respond to that random ass comment.

But you're worried about a S tier fber sorcs fbs costing more than f tier melee builds? lol?

Again I have no idea how you see a problem with this.

What build and for sure I will try to explain. I appreciate that some players have more complete characters then others right now, but the operative term is "complete". A complete character @ LLD (30) does not need mana pots. It is a resource, and resource management is whats needed. This is part of the reason as to why Pskulls are so powerful.

Some examples:
1. A complete Energy Shield (you get ES from switch orb and the levels from Viper/SOJS/Shield) Sorc would typically have 1900 Mana or more. This is with an inventory of either x40 15/12's or x10 25/46 and x10 15/12. x2 Pskulls is more then enough in this situation not to use pots. If you cant get life/mana charms you simply dont build one of these yet. I want a bowa, i cant afford 3/20/15's, so I am not building one yet.
2. A Vita Sorc (i.e. not using Energy Shield) can use insight on switch. with items prioritising mana, there should not be mana issues. Aim for 1000+ Mana
3. A Libby can be cheap or expensive. The most optimal small charm distribution is 1/2 15/12 and 1/2 3/20/15, after that its x40 15/12, after that its x40 15 plain. With the ability to get meditation on Honor on main or 2nd slot, the key thing is to get mana where you can from items (or charms). Dual spirits and a medi stick on switch is a poor mans libby and quite effective.
4. A pnb necro will have insight on switch and a poor mans can use spirit (spirit is also ok end game).

this list can go on for each build.

I started D2r with 1000fg and I have had the same opportunities as everyone else to earn fg to build a character. Yes I might have some advantages playing with friends and knowing what good looks like (so many ppl ignore so much stuff that drops). some of my characters are playable and some are not. I still have not bought x2 sojs. I know everyone is still building characters, and some players (like me) might spend years perfecting their characters. some have only started and the char is still unplayable, some are on the road to being playable, some are playable, some are good and 1 or 2 are on the way to great, with few and far upgrades.

in the round I dont mind people using mana pots against me, provided they are not on ES Sorc. Long term however the idea of a complete char includes mana management (i.e. not using pots).

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 23 2021 09:53am

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you can cast much more than 27. there is mana regen gear: magefists, pskulls, insight. sorcs have warmth, palys have meditation.
mana regen also gets much better the more mana you have.
you can also get sojs, spirit sword, 12-45 mana charms, 90mana rings/amulets/circlets. 400-600 mana is very manageable on all characters. ES sorcs can get like 1500 mana without even trying, casting skills doesnt even make a dent to their mana pool.

so yeah, plenty of way to address this issue

THAT SAID: new players hate not being able to use mana pots. most llders dont care if people use mana pots (as long as they arent on an ES sorc). this rule is more for tournaments among vet players ♥

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Nov 23 2021 09:43am

i understand you guys are trying to explain how to "fix the issue"

but explain why mana pots = no but insight = yes?

just let them pot.. potting fixes the same problem insight does..

and by allowing pots, you can potentially increase item and build diversity.

edit - insight is honestly the worst solution, its super dangerous to swap off your shield, and have to wait for mana

This post was edited by HuntingTreasure on Nov 23 2021 10:26am

This guy is right.

the fact is alot of people will use pots but as their character improves and if they stick around they will naturally move towards not using pots.
i hear what your saying, i can only repeat, almost everyone is still building their characters and its perfectly normal for players to start using pots while they make their character playable without them.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 23 2021 10:36am

Name some builds that will magically become viable if you use mana pots.

calm down this isnt an attack lol