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Oct 14 2015 12:40pm
Quote (Worrywart @ Oct 14 2015 12:37pm)
I was thinking about that last night. Only thing I could think of was possibly tvn if nec is patient as fuck



Idk any that are besides class vs class.... Cause then it's just all on skill
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Oct 14 2015 12:43pm
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Can you name some duels for me that are 5-5 and aren't class vs class.


There arent many, thats part of the reason i was laughing at you claiming fwall vs hdin is even.
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Oct 14 2015 12:50pm
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There arent many, thats part of the reason i was laughing at you claiming fwall vs hdin is even.



Ah, I see where your confusion lies within my post... By even I meant fair .. Depending on players at least... You said fwall sorc has absurd advantage over hdin, but in reality it doesn't... Again, what din loses 5-0 to fwall sorc? I beat worry 4-2, does that mean it's hard duel for fwall sorc?

Obv, no duel is 5-5 ... But 6-4 is pretty even...
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Oct 14 2015 12:58pm
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Ah, I see where your confusion lies within my post... By even I meant fair .. Depending on players at least... You said fwall sorc has absurd advantage over hdin, but in reality it doesn't... Again, what din loses 5-0 to fwall sorc? I beat worry 4-2, does that mean it's hard duel for fwall sorc?

Obv, no duel is 5-5 ... But 6-4 is pretty even...


I've never used a fw sorc but I'd say it's 7-3 for sorc. Especially with that es. Mainly use mana teleporting. Would just have to chase the din a lot. I would much rather be on the sorc than the din of players are skilled
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Oct 14 2015 01:00pm
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I've never used a fw sorc but I'd say it's 7-3 for sorc. Especially with that es. Mainly use mana teleporting. Would just have to chase the din a lot. I would much rather be on the sorc than the din of players are skilled



The chase makes it easier... I wouldn't say it's 7-3 that's redic.
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Oct 14 2015 01:00pm
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Ah, I see where your confusion lies within my post... By even I meant fair .. Depending on players at least... You said fwall sorc has absurd advantage over hdin, but in reality it doesn't... Again, what din loses 5-0 to fwall sorc? I beat worry 4-2, does that mean it's hard duel for fwall sorc?

Obv, no duel is 5-5 ... But 6-4 is pretty even...


i still think fwall is 7-3 over hdin. its 6-4 at worst. When i dueled BJ on his fwall it was dead nuts even and he was a bad fwaller. When jamie jumped on it it was closer to 6-4,7-3. When Jawn jumped on it it was 9-1,10-0 but thats a different story.

Im not judging the matchup on my char in this tourney, my hdin has 7x gcs because i sold 2 invs of scs before the tourney started and didnt have any more. Im judging it on years of dueling fwallers on an hdin and vice versa. Jawn and Adam both wiped me up with hdin vs fwall but i chalk that up to skill difference not matchup.
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Oct 14 2015 01:11pm
Fantastic work Worrywart on confirming you are #1 and slaying all these rands

heroic victory my friend

good luck to you sir
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Oct 14 2015 01:15pm
If you're getting 7-3'd most of the time it's not because the matchup is extremely unfair, but rather that there is a skill level gap between the players... Two even player using hdin and fwall sorc, I don't see a 7-3 happening.
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Oct 14 2015 01:17pm
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The chase makes it easier... I wouldn't say it's 7-3 that's redic.


Mm maybe 6.6-3.4

Idk es is just so tank. I used an es fber a few times for dueling against hdins and it was quite a bit different. Can screw up and tele in a hammer and es takes quite a bit of it. Add mdr and rep life for your vita and you're a bitch to kill. Have to get multiple hammers in a row to do any damage and tele is a lot faster than charging. Add some name lock firewalls and frosts if you're trying to offense along with random fw's and it's not hard to avoid the din at all
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Oct 14 2015 05:10pm
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Mm maybe 6.6-3.4

Idk es is just so tank. I used an es fber a few times for dueling against hdins and it was quite a bit different. Can screw up and tele in a hammer and es takes quite a bit of it. Add mdr and rep life for your vita and you're a bitch to kill. Have to get multiple hammers in a row to do any damage and tele is a lot faster than charging. Add some name lock firewalls and frosts if you're trying to offense along with random fw's and it's not hard to avoid the din at all


Din reps harder because tourney rules allow medi + rep so you're forced to end the duel as quickly as you can, and nl fw has to be angled right to deal any damage at all.

He soaked up hundreds of nl firewalls over the course of each duel, it wasn't like I was missing.

And going 105 fcr on firewall is not the best idea. You lose a lot of mana, mana regen, life and damage to go 105 fcr

This post was edited by Worrywart on Oct 14 2015 05:12pm
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