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Quote (ferdia @ Oct 22 2021 09:41am)
is that french?


the only math french know is (surrender) + (shame) = (get back to daytime naps faster)
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Missed your plug. That was nice of you...for a Westy huhu.

There are definitely better pieces out there individually, not sure many of them made it onto the same char though. I do remember excellence’s barb Ender being an absolute monster in gear

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the only math french know is (surrender) + (shame) = (get back to daytime naps faster)


Lolll savage

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Quote (chum @ Oct 21 2021 05:24pm)
Used tele barb for 20 years trust me I will not be turned.
Tried tele and non tele



Matt is the #1 barb and he uses vmagi.

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its one of the quirks of Whirlwind at low levels providing negative ED. ED/Min sockets mean that bugging the ED to apply to only max and the Min applying flat to min in the calculation actually increases average dmg. as odd as that sounds.


I don't get this point guys. Can someone explain this to me?

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Quote (FerGarD @ Oct 22 2021 01:30pm)
I don't get this point guys. Can someone explain this to me?


ww at low levels has negative ED, so it negates the power ED overall has on both Min and Max. Min dmg is so low on that build that the lower ED applied only to Max, with Min dmg being flat, comes out to a higher average damage.

if it were a case of ED/max jewels the results would be a disaster, but ED applied only to max with flat min can in some cases be higher ave dmg, especially when ED is hampered by negative factors like low level WW skill.

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Oct 22 2021 12:50pm
dont worry FerGard this makes no sense to me as well, I was never good at Math.
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Quote (ferdia @ Oct 22 2021 01:50pm)
dont worry FerGard this makes no sense to me as well, I was never good at Math.


as a simplified example:

let's say you do 25 to 100 dmg. and we dont factor anything but jewels

would you rather have 20ed/6str/9dex/xx jewels or 20ed/9min/6str jewels?

both jewels have 26% ed due to str.

26 x 3 = 78% ed

25 x 1.78 = 44.5
100 x 1.78 = 178

25 + 27 (3x 9 min jewels) = 52
100 x 1.78 = 178

so its 44-178 or 52-178



if you want to see some crazy ass wep calcs look at knouts using low str and ave dmg like reaperking ran. that shit gets wild with possibilities.

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Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 22 2021 08:46pm)
ww at low levels has negative ED, so it negates the power ED overall has on both Min and Max. Min dmg is so low on that build that the lower ED applied only to Max, with Min dmg being flat, comes out to a higher average damage.

if it were a case of ED/max jewels the results would be a disaster, but ED applied only to max with flat min can in some cases be higher ave dmg, especially when ED is hampered by negative factors like low level WW skill.


oky, got it. ty
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