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Mar 11 2021 04:35am
Not just about gear...

I would mana pot if I could... because i suck at dueling no mater what the char
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Quote (Belarathon @ Mar 10 2021 11:27pm)
yeah but at first, maybe even for the first year depending on how quickly bots emerge, you'll be able to actually find usable and sellable stuff. Things that get charsi'd or donated right now could be used for some time depending on the timing of bots.

Quote (mike_roch @ Mar 11 2021 12:07am)
It 100% is, but that rarely matters look at wow.


exactly what mike said. i am 100% confident we will have bots eventhough your account is attached to bnet, because WoW have been plagued with bots since forever. i dont see why d2r would be any different. that said, old d2 bots will probably not work so they will need time to develop new bots. this means we as players will likely get a cool respite for at least a handful of months that are completely bot-free :D

Quote (IAmAsylum @ Mar 10 2021 11:33pm)
Honestly this is generally the best strat
Even for new d2r it will likely be best to sell generally good things like high runes to buy Lld stuff

implying we will find hr's at all :P
which is very very unlikely. however I can say you will find decent things, like occy, shako, titans, tal ammy/armor. in regular bnet server, theyre worthless due to their endless supply because the server is heavily botted, but on classic legit servers like Slash, theyre worth their weight in gold (mal to vex each). these things sell very very fast and are very common compared to super rare stuff like arach/ohm+. on slash, jah and ber rune go for like 5-7 ohm runes each. the shittiest of sorc and paly torch also sell for at the very least vex to ohm rune each.

not to say that these will be exactly their prices, but id bet good money prices on early d2r will be more similar to slash than they will be to actual bnet. because people actually grind for their gear instead of relying on several bots.

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Mar 12 2021 01:48pm
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Quote (WereWolf12345 @ Mar 12 2021 02:45pm)
exactly what mike said. i am 100% confident we will have bots eventhough your account is attached to bnet, because WoW have been plagued with bots since forever. i dont see why d2r would be any different. that said, old d2 bots will probably not work so they will need time to develop new bots. this means we as players will likely get a cool respite for at least a handful of months that are completely bot-free :D


implying we will find hr's at all :P
which is very very unlikely. however I can say you will find decent things, like occy, shako, titans, tal ammy/armor. in regular bnet server, theyre worthless due to their endless supply because the server is heavily botted, but on classic legit servers like Slash, theyre worth their weight in gold (mal to vex each). these things sell very very fast and are very common compared to super rare stuff like arach/ohm+. on slash, jah and ber rune go for like 5-7 ohm runes each. the shittiest of sorc and paly torch also sell for at the very least vex to ohm rune each.

not to say that these will be exactly their prices, but id bet good money prices on early d2r will be more similar to slash than they will be to actual bnet. because people actually grind for their gear instead of relying on several bots.


what in tarnation is slash?
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what in tarnation is slash?

slash is a private server. all in all, it's pretty much bnet, with no cheating tolerated and slightly increased droprates.

only a specific maphack and drop notifer is allowed, and they ban bots/hacks/script on sight. the increased droprates is to make farming not as tedious. if i recall correctly, either theyve reduced their nodrop to 0 (meaning a monster will always drop an item), or they have made p1 games have the drops of p3-p8. the reason why i mention them is because its the closest thing we have to how d2r will look like when its released. not because im promoting them or anything.

here's a cute "value chart" that they've compiled and pinned on their trading channel: https://i.imgur.com/A7l76rR.png

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Mar 12 2021 02:35pm
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Quote (herpesfreesince03 @ Mar 10 2021 05:59am)
I’ve never seen the reason to not allow mana pots.

All it ever did was hurt players who couldn’t afford better gear so basically people with 100’s of more mana than you would be an advantage if you ran out before them.

Early lld I always used mana pots cause it made no sense I had to be crippled since you could afford the pricey items and I couldn’t.

Literally the only thing it should have been banned on is es sorcs.

I obviously don’t need them anymore as I use characters that don’t have mana issues now but in the beginning I always thought it was the dumbest rule


Its always been a topic of controversy. On the one hand i agree in the sense that it allows for a lower barrier to entry into dueling. Budget chars can stack more res etc instead of worrying about their blue bulb. And as you say, es sorcs are the only chars that can really abuse potions.

On the other hand, mana management seperates good players from bad players. Good zons for example have to actually aim, because spamming arrows have a consequence. Zvzs would take 30000 years with a belt full of pots, since the close range game usually happens when zons are low on mana.

This post was edited by lld_mayhem on Mar 12 2021 10:32pm
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Quote (Belarathon @ Mar 11 2021 10:21am)
gamble on 45 that way every single circ you gamble has the chance for +2 skill tab

I'd just run places that are easy to get to quickly and have either a super unique or high mob density. Don't go higher than 250% mf if looking for rares explained by feanur here. Cows, a2 tombs, Travincal, Chaos Sanctuary, Fridgid Highlands WP (Eldritch and Shenk), and Pindle have always been nice. All very easy to get to/no searching and all have a little boss or high density. Andy and Meph are both nice too of course if you don't mind sometimes taking a while to find them. I personally prefer just non stop killing stuff and less time searching for the destination. Andy is especially nice for jewels and jewelry although I haven't looked into whether or not her mlvl in nm restricts any lld mods.


random thing to check, but doesn't it check roll from the top down?
so it tries to roll unique, then set, then rare, then magic?
which would mean more MF is always more valuable, the argument is kill speed.
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random thing to check, but doesn't it check roll from the top down?
so it tries to roll unique, then set, then rare, then magic?
which would mean more MF is always more valuable, the argument is kill speed.



Feanur explains it perfectly in the link there.

This post was edited by Belarathon on Mar 13 2021 12:12am
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random thing to check, but doesn't it check roll from the top down?
so it tries to roll unique, then set, then rare, then magic?
which would mean more MF is always more valuable, the argument is kill speed.


Woah, a wild Caley appeared!
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Quote (Belarathon @ Mar 13 2021 07:11pm)
Feanur explains it perfectly in the link there.


oooo it's talking about boss kills not trash spawn ic ic makes sense!

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Woah, a wild Caley appeared!


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trash is still trash
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