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Jan 26 2021 11:56am
Quote (Avenged321 @ Jan 26 2021 12:53pm)
3v3 automatically equals more balanced teams

Even in hld 2v2 there’s more dominant team than the others... I think nec/barb > hld


yup agreed.

druid / nec in hld is also very op.
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Jan 26 2021 12:14pm
Quote (CloudMD @ Jan 26 2021 12:36pm)
1) ?? i've literally dueled both their bvc's lol. and doesnt matter if i've been here for 2 months. not sure what difference that makes.
2) https://i.imgur.com/dmXSOvh.png https://i.imgur.com/ByNyfc2.png and not one of my 16 participants said anything bad about this tournament. facts. and get your facts straight ty.
3) then why are there so many rules on everything. so many people complain about fball sorcs, hdins, plague zons, chargers and fire wall sorcs. why ban these chars as you and some other people suggested in the past? why ban bo'd teams? why ban this and that etc. i just come here with a fresh mindset and it seemed like people in the community are taking it pretty well. the people who didnt participate are the ones shitting on it. and of those people, they main one-shot chargers, zons, and hdins.


you are wrong, matt has not had his actual barb built since before u llded, ted doesnt even have one built at the moment. you have seen them playing brawlers, who whirlwind with throwing spears, or 2 handed pike/bec-de-corbin barbs, you have not at all seen matt play on his real barb as it hasnt been built since before you started, and ted doesnt even have a real one built, just his brawler.

you are doing 10k fg tourneys, it is going to be positive outcome no matter how you run it, its 10k fucking fg, most of our events run off of donations of not nearly that much, so again, ty for your part in trying to make the community more active, but the reason some ppl ask for certain shit to get banned sometimes it's because it's an event designed to not allow top tier chars, there literally has not been a full on allow every char tourney because the guy making the tourneys is a bad player overall and could not hang with those builds, if that is how you are too, then that's fine. i was throwing you ideas on ways to get more signups, i also tried to send this in pm to avoid drama but then you quoted my pm and posted here anyways, real respectful.

we have banned certain builds in b-tier/c-tier events because if some classes are banned then others need to be too, to balance it out. but this has been a failure of an idea in the past just as often as it has been a good idea, it's all on howyou structure the event. these are team tourneys and thusly shouldn't need to ban nething... asylum banned certain shit in 1v1 to avoid prider duels, tvt is different.



This post was edited by MADIrishGunner on Jan 26 2021 12:24pm
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Jan 26 2021 12:18pm
How does one guy turn so many ppl against him constantly?
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Jan 26 2021 12:20pm
never forget xbow zon is S tears
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Quote (Avenged321 @ Jan 26 2021 01:18pm)
How does one guy turn so many ppl against him constantly?


michael is a long time friend, im not turning him against me, we have disagreed on several things in the past and can even be immature towards eachother and still maintain friendship, now stop crying please, you have never played a single thing youve signed up for, didn't you try to climb to #1 on the zvz ladder via never dueling a single time? gtfo.

also just to try for the final time to put shit in perspective for you, in the b-tier event we didnt allow top tier chars, of any kind. meaning if you played pally, no hdin. if you played sorc, no fb or fw or blizz, if you played barb then no ww, if you played zon then no bowa, etc. but these events youve been doing, allow some a-s tier builds, and not others, and then allow some b-tier builds which have no place in this event because they can't compete (aka druid) it's not balanced to use only these 4 chars like it is in hld, it's just not.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 26 2021 01:20pm)
never forget xbow zon is S tears


your damn skippy it is! lol, esp with andy on it. i was the only player who got dodged more in the b-tier event than andy on that thing, people were super afraid of it/him.

This post was edited by MADIrishGunner on Jan 26 2021 12:30pm
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michael is a long time friend, im not turning him against me, we have disagreed on several things in the past and can even be immature towards eachother and still maintain friendship, now stop crying please, you have never played a single thing youve signed up for, didn't you try to climb to #1 on the zvz ladder via never dueling a single time? gtfo.

also just to try for the final time to put shit in perspective for you, in the b-tier event we didnt allow top tier chars, of any kind. meaning if you played pally, no hdin. if you played sorc, no fb or fw or blizz, if you played barb then no ww, if you played zon then no bowa, etc. but these events youve been doing, allow some a-s tier builds, and not others, and then allow some b-tier builds which have no place in this event because they can't compete (aka druid) it's not balanced to use only these 4 chars like it is in hld, it's just not.



your damn skippy it is! lol, esp with andy on it. i was the only player who got dodged more in the b-tier event than andy on that thing, people were super afraid of it/him.


yall all just lucky ted didnt have time to play on my dclaw sin. no joke that thing is a legit fucking a tier char with a good dueler on it that can handle that level of swaps, tele mechanics, and total skills. if it procs amp off a dflight in it can legit kill almost all chars just in that sequence. thing does stupid dmg.
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Jan 26 2021 12:40pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 26 2021 01:33pm)
yall all just lucky ted didnt have time to play on my dclaw sin. no joke that thing is a legit fucking a tier char with a good dueler on it that can handle that level of swaps, tele mechanics, and total skills. if it procs amp off a dflight in it can legit kill almost all chars just in that sequence. thing does stupid dmg.


you should have him play it some time, i think ive seen him on it once but abunch of ppl went afk and i nvr got to see it in action.

use dclaw sin sometime so i can see it plox.

gl on the next event tho michael, this just isn't my cup of tea, its favoring some top tier builds but not allowing others to play, and then adding druid in to the event when it cant even compete with the other 3 classes is just a joke to me. hlders who come over from legit dueling (apart from a select few like vert etc) never seem to understand why we dont lld fpk, and it's because its just not as balanced as it is at the high level, hence you are here trying to tweak the rules and even considering something as Ludacris as adding eop to druid to make it able to compete.

like i said bro, i love you and if you ever hold an event that allows everything on a fair and level playing field, i'll be first to sign up, i'll even donate to the event personally.
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you should have him play it some time, i think ive seen him on it once but abunch of ppl went afk and i nvr got to see it in action.

^scipi use dclaw sin sometime so i can see it plox.

gl on the next event tho michael, this just isn't my cup of tea, its favoring some top tier builds but not allowing others to play, and then adding druid in to the event when it cant even compete with the other 3 classes is just a joke to me. hlders who come over from legit dueling (apart from a select few like vert etc) never seem to understand why we dont lld fpk, and it's because its just not as balanced as it is at the high level, hence you are here trying to tweak the rules and even considering something as Ludacris as adding eop to druid to make it able to compete.

like i said bro, i love you and if you ever hold an event that allows everything on a fair and level playing field, i'll be first to sign up, i'll even donate to the event personally.


ya he has perma-access. im sure tho he also has like 10 other chars he wants to play haha.
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Jan 26 2021 12:43pm
Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Jan 26 2021 01:40pm)
you should have him play it some time, i think ive seen him on it once but abunch of ppl went afk and i nvr got to see it in action.

^scipi use dclaw sin sometime so i can see it plox.

gl on the next event tho michael, this just isn't my cup of tea, its favoring some top tier builds but not allowing others to play, and then adding druid in to the event when it cant even compete with the other 3 classes is just a joke to me. hlders who come over from legit dueling (apart from a select few like vert etc) never seem to understand why we dont lld fpk, and it's because its just not as balanced as it is at the high level, hence you are here trying to tweak the rules and even considering something as Ludacris as adding eop to druid to make it able to compete.

like i said bro, i love you and if you ever hold an event that allows everything on a fair and level playing field, i'll be first to sign up, i'll even donate to the event personally.



EOP on all 4 classes
No max block
Amp allowed
Allowed to lower res
Bo is fair game
Recasting

What’s broken? Just curious. There’s a reason why I opened up this thread (see OP) to discuss what ppl enjoyed about 1.0 and to rebalance it in 2.0

/e don’t just say better barb wins. I highly doubt that’s the case.

I really think druid will be VERY OP if we were to implement EOP on all classes and amp.

It allows them to stack Wolves and oak too.. plus keep in mind bo’d druid

This post was edited by CloudMD on Jan 26 2021 12:46pm
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Quote (CloudMD @ Jan 26 2021 10:43am)
EOP on all 4 classes
No max block
Amp allowed
Allowed to lower res
Bo is fair game
Recasting

What’s broken? Just curious. There’s a reason why I opened up this thread (see OP) to discuss what ppl enjoyed about 1.0 and to rebalance it in 2.0

/e don’t just say better barb wins. I highly doubt that’s the case.

I really think druid will be VERY OP if we were to implement EOP on all classes and amp.

It allows them to stack Wolves and oak too..



Think mb should be allowed otherwise barb steam rolls through like hld, also not sure ppl want to token every time they have to do fpk/ gm regular lld.
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